FamilyTreeDNA’s New Matrix Shows How Your Matches Are Related to Each Other

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FamilyTreeDNA’s new reworked Matrix includes relationships, in other words, how your matches are related to each other. But there’s more. It also includes the number of shared segments and the number of cMs shared between your matches.

You can then push those matches through to the chromosome browser to see exactly which segments overlap between you and your matches.

This is a game-changer!!

Why Are These Features Important?

For genealogists, knowing how your matches are related to each other, or not, is a HUGE clue about your common ancestor. Clusters of people who match each other are an important road sign directing you to a specific ancestor who contributed the same DNA segment or segments to all of you.

FamilyTreeDNA just released several VERY cool updates for their Matrix comparison tool. Plus, you get to select a group of 10 people to compare.

The purpose of the Matrix tool is to select Family Finder autosomal matches who are then displayed in a grid matrix for comparison, showing if and how those matches match each other.

Specifically:

  • Do your matches match each other?
  • What is their estimated relationship to each other?
  • How many segments of DNA do they share with each other?
  • How many cMs (centiMorgans) of DNA do they share with each other?

You can then push 7 matches through to the chromosome browser to see if they match on any of the same segments.

Automated Triangulation

If you are comparing bucketed (maternal or paternal) matches, or matches known to belong to the same side of your tree, the shared segments are automatically triangulated.

How cool is this?!!!

Keep in mind, though, that you may be related to someone through multiple ancestors, and they could be from both parent’s sides, so pay attention to the ancestral segment history.

Remember, every segment has its own unique history.

Let’s step through the new Matrix features and see how they work.

Select the Matrix

Navigate to the Matrix tool under “See More” under Autosomal DNA Results and Tools.

Under “Select Matches” you can select “All Matches” to choose from all of your matches, or you can select a grouping of matches to be displayed in the menu, below.

These groupings are shortcuts for you so you don’t have to pick everyone individually. You can also search for a name.

Click on the individuals you want to compare in the Matrix. The people you’ve selected from the group, at left, will appear in the box, at right. That’s who will be compared to each other.

Next, select which type of data will be compared.

I’m selecting “Close Relatives” for this example and “Relationship range.” First, I added my mother so I could see who matches with her.

Then I added the rest of the people I want to compare. In this case, I’ve added my closest matches, even though they are from both sides of my tree.

Relationship Range

I’ve selected “Relationship range,” which will show me how my matches estimated relationships to each other.

Based on the identity of these matches, and how they match each other, I can now determine their ancestral connection.

If I didn’t know who was related maternally and paternally, this grid would remove all doubt became I’m comparing to one of my parents.

If you don’t have a parent, adding close, known relatives on one or both sides will help immensely.

Be sure to make notes about what you’ve discovered on your matches page, and paint to DNAPainter if that’s how you’re tracking your segments to ancestors.

Number of Segments Shared

Now, I’ve selected “Number of segments shared” to compare the same group of people.

You can see the number of shared segments between Mom’s matches. Donald and Cheryl are full siblings.

The display shows how these people match Mom, and each other.

Melissa is Mom’s paternal second cousin. I was able to piece this together with the help of how she matches Mom and Mom’s known paternal first cousins, Cheryl and Donald.

Total cMs Shared

Next, I’m selecting “Total cMs shared” for comparison.

Looking at the number of shared cMs, even if I didn’t know that Donald and Cheryl were full siblings, I would now.

You can also push these through to the chromosome browser. I’ll illustrate in a minute.

Bucketed or Parental Side Matching

My favorite groupings for the new Matrix are the bucketed, meaning parental or maternal “side” matching.”

When your matches are already bucketed, thanks to having linked known matches to their profile card in your tree, the system does a lot of the “side” work for you behind the scenes.

When you select “Maternal, “Paternal” or “Paternal and Maternal” matches, the people who have been bucket to either side, or those related to you on both sides, are listed in the selection box.

I’m selecting 7 of my maternal bucketed matches because I’m going to push them through to the chromosome browser for additional evaluation. I’m not including my mother because I already know these people are related to both me and her, because they are bucketed maternally.

They’re compared in the various matrix configurations.

From the Shared cM comparison table, I can easily click to display matches in the chromosome browser.

If you’re comparing more than 7 people, you’ll need to reduce it to 7. I excluded my Mom because I already know she matches all of them.

Click on the Compare Chromosome Browser at the bottom for the 7 people selected.

I know that cousin Charles descends from Mom’s paternal Lentz line, and has no other connection, so I know that these other cousins who also match me on that same segment are also from Mom’s Lentz line.

I can also tell that the shared segments on chromosome 1 are from Mom’s maternal Lore line.

Shown here are the common ancestors in Mom’s pedigree chart. They are 4 and 5 generations back in time for me.

Look how easy that was!

I love this new Matrix tool.

Triangulation

Because three or more people, including me, match on the same segments, this means they also triangulate.

In the example above, we have two distinct triangulation groups. I’m only showing chromosomes 1-3 for illustration purposes, but there are also more triangulation groups on the other chromosomes. If I add other people, new triangulation groups will form!

Of course, these are my maternal bucketed matches, so I’m safe to reach that conclusion. If my father’s matches were also loaded here, I would have to check the matrix and see if these people also matched each other before I could determine that they triangulate.

Check Your Matches and Upload

Be sure to upload any tests to FamilyTreeDNA that you manage at other vendors, and encourage your cousins to upload too.

This combination of features is unique to FamilyTreeDNA. The more relatives you have available to match, especially when you already know the common ancestor, the better. Be sure to link your matches to their placard in your tree so that FamilyTreeDNA can do the bucketing for you.

Even if you don’t link people, you can still benefit greatly from the new matrix tool by just having your DNA available for matching. The matrix will help you sort out matches and identify who is related to whom, and how.

Take a look! What are you discovering?

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Leave No Stone Unturned, No Ancestor Behind: 10 Easy Steps to Capture DNA Clues

There’s a lot, a whole lot that DNA testing can tell you. Not just your own tests, but the genetic information carried by your relatives that you do not.

Recently, I’ve been reviewing my brick walls, which led me to realize there are several ancestors who are missing their mitochondrial DNA and/or Y-DNA  results. I need these to learn more about my ancestors that can’t be revealed any other way – and to break down those pesky brick walls.

I’ve solved two mysteries recently, one thanks to a Big Y-700 test, and a second very unexpectedly thanks to mitochondrial DNA – both thanks to cousins who tested. These revelations were very encouraging, especially since there’s no way other than DNA for me to break through these brick walls. The mitochondrial test had been sitting there, waiting for what seemed like forever until just the right other person tested.

I am in the process of unlocking several brick-walled ancestors by providing testing scholarships to people who are appropriately descended from known ancestors in those lines.

Don’t leave information on the table. If I were to tell you there even MIGHT be a book available about your family, you’d overturn Heaven and Earth to find it – but you don’t need to do that. All you need to do is order DNA tests for cousins.

All cousins can provide useful autosomal DNA results, but you do need to find appropriate cousins for Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA testing.

I’m sharing the steps for how I accomplish this! You’ll be amazed at what’s out there – and someone may already have tested!

Take Advantage of the Holidays

I’m sharing NOW because it’s the holidays and you’re likely to gather with people you don’t see any other time – and because the best sale of the year for both Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA lasts from now through the end of the year.

These two factors combined mean strike while the iron is hot.

Prices for new tests and bundles are at an all-time low.

If you or your relatives have already taken a lower-level test, now is the time to upgrade to either the Big Y-700 or the mtFull Sequence test.

Step 1 – Test Yourself and Your Known Family

If you’re a male, order both the Big Y-700 test and mitochondrial DNA tests.

Be sure to click on “See More” for more useful tools.

When you receive your results, be sure to click on all of the tabs in your results, and do the same by clicking through to Discover from your account. Discover has 13 more goodies for you to help with your genealogy.

Both your personal page and Discover are essentially chapters of your own personal book about your DNA results. 25 very interesting chapters, to be precise, that are uniquely you.

I’ve written about understanding Y-DNA results here, and mitochondrial results here. My book, Complete Guide to FamilyTreeDNA, covers both along with Discover.

Discover provides robust information for Y-DNA haplogroups. If you’ve taken a Big Y-700 test, you’ll want to click through from your page to receive additional, personalized and more robust information than is available through the free public Discover tool. That said, the public version of Discover is an amazing tool for everyone.

After the new Mitotree is released for mitochondrial DNA, mitochondrial haplogroups will be available in Discover too.

I can’t even begin to stress how important these tools are – in particular the Time Tree, the Group Time Tree for members of group projects, and the Match Time Tree for your own matches.

Who Can Test For What?

Once you’ve tested yourself, you will want to take a look in your pedigree chart at branches further up your tree to see who can be tested to represent specific ancestors.

Let’s begin with my father’s side.

A mother contributes her mitochondrial DNA to all of her children, so your father carries the mitochondrial DNA of his mother.

If you’re a female, and your father is available to test, you’ll want to test BOTH his mitochondrial DNA and Y-DNA, because there’s no way for you to obtain that information from your own test. Females don’t have a Y chromosome, and men don’t pass on their mitochondrial DNA.

If you’re a male, you can test your own mitochondrial DNA and Y-DNA, but you’ll need to test your father’s mitochondrial DNA to obtain his mother’s. You might still want to test your father’s Y-DNA, however, because you may discover a personal family haplogroup. How cool is that??!! Your own tiny branch on the tree of mankind!

Your father’s mitochondrial DNA provides you with mitochondrial matches and haplogroup information for your paternal grandmother – in this case, Ollie Bolton.

If your father and his siblings can’t test, then all of the children of your paternal aunts carry your paternal grandmother’s mitochondrial DNA.

If they have no children or they can’t test, then the children of Ollie Bolton’s mother, Margaret Claxton/Clarkson all carry her mitochondrial DNA, and the children of Ollie’s sisters continue the line of descent through all daughters to the current generation.

The male children of Joseph “Dode” Bolton and Margaret Claxton carry his Y-DNA. Fortunately, that’s not one of our missing haplogroups.

Yes, you may have to climb up your tree and climb down various branches to find a testing candidate.

One of the reasons I’m using this example is because, while I have a high-level haplogroup for my grandmother, Ollie Bolton, we need a full sequence tester – and I’m offering a mitochondrial DNA testing scholarship for anyone descending from Margaret Claxton (or her direct female ancestors) through all females to the current generation, which can be male.

Ok, now let’s switch to the maternal side of your tree.

On the other side of your tree, your maternal grandfather or your mother’s brothers will provide the Y-DNA of your mother’s father’s line. Your mother’s uncles or their sons will provide your grandfather’s Y-DNA line, too. In this case, that’s John Whitney Ferverda, who carries the Y-DNA of his father, Hiram Bauke Ferverda/Ferwerda.

Your maternal grandfather or his siblings will provide the mitochondrial DNA of their mother, Evaline Louise Miller.

If they are deceased or can’t test, for mitochondrial DNA, look to the children of Evaline Miller’s daughters or their descendants through all females to the current generation, which can be male.

And yes, in case you’re wondering, I do need Evaline Miller’s mitochondrial line too and am offering a scholarship.

You might have noticed that I’ve been inching my way up my tree. All of my immediate relatives have passed over already, so I’m now looking for testers that I don’t know but who I’m related to.

If you’re seeing family members anytime soon, figure out if their Y-DNA, mitochondrial DNA, or autosomal DNA would be useful for your common genealogy. Take advantage of the opportunity.

Next, you’ll want to figure out which ancestors need haplogroups and locate appropriate cousins.

Step 2 – Identify Ancestors Who Need Haplogroups

Peruse your tree to determine which of your ancestors you need haplogroup information for. To make it easy, on my computer, but never in a public tree anyplace, I store the haplogroup of my ancestor as a “middle name” so I can easily see which ones I have and which ones I need. Sometimes, I have a high-level haplogroup and either need a new tester or someone to upgrade.

Sometimes, I have one tester from a line but need a second for confirmation.

In this example, I’m not missing confirmation on any Y-DNA haplogroups (although I am further upstream on different lines,) but I do need four different mitochondrial DNA lineages.

For easy reference, make a list of all of the lines you can’t confirm with two testers from different children of the same ancestor.

You just might get lucky and discover that someone has already tested!

Step 3 – Check FamilyTreeDNA Projects

Check FamilyTreeDNA Projects to see if someone has already tested to represent those ancestors on your list.

Click here for the Group Project Search. It’s located at the very bottom of the main FamilyTreeDNA page in the footer.

I’m going to use Estes as an example since I’m the volunteer administrator of that project and am very familiar with the lineages.

I’m searching for projects that include the surname Estes.

The projects displayed on the list are projects where the volunteer administrators listed Estes as a possible surname of interest. It doesn’t mean those projects will be of interest to everyone or every line with that surname, but evaluate each project listed.

You probably want the surname project, but if there’s not a surname project for your surname, try alternate spellings or consider checking other projects.

You can see at the bottom that 384 people of both sexes by the surname of Estes have tested at FamilyTreeDNA.

Now, let’s look at the Estes project. Note that not everyone with the Estes surname has joined the Estes project.

I’ve clicked on the “Estes” link which takes me to an additional information page where I can read a description and click to view the project.

For the Estes project, you do not have to join to view the results. Nor does your surname have to be Estes. All Estes descendants of any line are welcome. Everyone can benefit from the Advanced Matching within project feature to see who else you match within the project by selecting a wide range of individual and combined filters.

Click on the Project Website link shown in the search results.

If you’re searching for a male Estes ancestor, you’ll want to review the project’s Y-DNA Results and the Group Time Tree, for sure, and possibly the Map as well.

Let’s pretend I’m trying to determine if anyone has tested who descends from my ancestor, Abraham Estes, the founding Estes ancestor in Virginia who arrived in the mid-1600s.

In the Estes project, the volunteer administrator has divided the Estes male participants by sons of Abraham, the immigrant. Only three are shown here, but there are several.

Some of the participants have completed their Earliest Known Ancestor information, in the red box. Sometimes people don’t think to update these when they make breakthroughs.

If you descend from Abraham’s son, Sylvester, three men have taken the Big Y-700. That’s the test results you need.

If you descend from Abraham’s son, Abraham, no project participants have taken the Big-Y test to represent that line, although six people have tested, so that’s great news. Maybe you can offer an upgrade scholarship to one or some of those men.

In other words, to establish the haplogroup for that lineage, at least two men need to test or upgrade to the Big Y-700, preferably through two different sons of the common ancestor. A new, more defining haplogroup is often formed every two or three generations for Y-DNA.

Your genetic pedigree chart looks a lot like your genealogy pedigree chart.

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The project Group Time Tree shows selected groups of men who have taken Big Y tests, along with their Earliest Known Ancestor, if they’ve provided the information. This is one of the reasons why the Big Y-700 is so critically important to genealogy. The time granularity is amazing and can answer the question of whether men by the same surname descend from the same common ancestor – and when.

If you’ve taken a Family Finder autosomal test at FamilyTreeDNA, or uploaded an autosomal file from another vendor, you may match one of these men or another male that descends from the Estes line if they, too, have taken an autosomal test.

This same process applies to mitochondrial DNA, but generally surname projects aren’t (as) relevant for mitochondrial DNA since the surname changes every generation. However, sometimes other projects, such as the Acadian AmerIndian Project are quite beneficial if you have Acadian ancestry, or a geographic or regional project like the French Heritage Project, or something like the American Indian Project.

Another great way to find testers is by utilizing your Family Finder test.

Step 4 – Family Finder at FamilyTreeDNA

The next step is to see if you match anyone with the surname you’re searching for by using your autosomal test results, so select your Family Finder Matches.

At FamilyTreeDNA you’ll want to search your matches by the surname you seek. This surname search lists any tester who has that surname, or anyone who has entered that surname in their surname list. Please note that this search does NOT read ancestors in your matches’ trees. You’ll still need to view trees.

Reviewing the 32 Estes Family Finder matches reveals several men, but one man with the Estes surname has already taken a Y-DNA 25-marker test, so he would be an excellent candidate to offer a Big Y-700 upgrade scholarship. If he’s not interested or doesn’t respond, there are several more men to contact.

Click on your match’s name to display the profile card, along with the Earliest Known Ancestors, both Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups if they have tested, and the assigned haplogroup based on their testing level.

Craft an email and offer a testing scholarship. This will help both of you. I’ll provide a sample email at the end of this article.

If you match a female with an Estes surname, her father, brother, uncle or cousin may either have already tested or be willing.

If you match someone who has a different surname, that means they have an Estes surname in their surname list and may know a potential tester. If your match has a tree, click to check.

I’ve found that matching through a company where you’ve both tested is the easiest way to encourage someone to take an additional test, but certainly, it’s not the only way.

Step 5 – WikiTree

WikiTree is a quick and easy way to see if anyone has taken a Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA test that should reflect a particular ancestor’s Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA.

I just googled “Moses Estes 1711-1787 WikiTree” and clicked to view.

Each ancestor includes both Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA information, in addition to people who descend from that ancestor through only autosomal lines.

In this case, two men have provided their Y-DNA results that pertain to Moses Estes. They have tested at different levels, which is why they have different haplogroups. That doesn’t mean either is “wrong,” one is just more refined than the other. You can correlate their kit number with the Estes surname project. People often don’t update their haplogroup information at WikiTree when it’s updated at FamilyTreeDNA.

Please note that if the genealogy is wrong, either at WikiTree or individually, the haplogroup may not reflect the appropriate lineage for the ancestor. Check to be sure that there’s no conflict showing between two testers for the same ancestor. For example, the same ancestor clearly can’t have two different base haplogroups, like E and R. The Discover Compare tool can help you evaluate if two haplogroups are in the same part of the Y-DNA tree.

When possible, it’s always best to test a close family member to represent your lineage even if someone else has already tested.

Scan down the list of autosomal testers for that ancestor to see if there’s someone with the Estes surname.

WikiTree provides additional tools to find descendants.

Sign in to WikiTree. You’ll see the ID of the profile you’re viewing – in this case – Estes-167. Click the down arrow and select “Descendants.”

This view shows all descendants through five generations, but you can click on DNA Descendants to see only Y-DNA descendants, X-DNA, or mitochondrial DNA descendants for female ancestors.

You may find people who are living and have added themselves who you can contact to offer a DNA testing scholarship.

Step 6 – MyHeritage

At MyHeritage, you can also search your DNA matches by surname.

Click on “Review DNA Match” to view more detail, including locations. Look to see if you have a Theory of Family Relativity Match which suggests how you may be related. That’s golden!

There’s no Y-DNA information at MyHeritage, BUT, you can search by surname and view DNA matches that either carry that surname or have that surname in their tree as an ancestor.

I have a total of 75 “Estes” matches, and other than the kits that I manage, searching through my matches shows:

  • Two Estes men connected to the same small tree, but that’s OK, I’m a genealogist!

  • One Estes male match with a Theory of Family Relativity. My lucky day!

You can contact your match easily through the MyHeritage messaging system and offer a DNA testing scholarship at FamilyTreeDNA. You may also want to share your email address.

MyHeritage customers may not be familiar with Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA testing, so you might want to share this article about the 4 Kinds of DNA for Genealogy.

MyHeritage testers can also upload their DNA file to FamilyTreeDNA for free to receive autosomal matches plus a complimentary mid-range Y-DNA haplogroup. This free haplogroup is not even close to the detailed resolution of a Big Y-700 test, but it’s something, and it may well be an enticing first step for people who are only familiar with autosomal testing.

Step 7 – At Ancestry

At Ancestry, select DNA Matches and then search by surname.

You can search by the surname of the tester, which is very useful, or by people who have Estes in their trees.

I started with the surname Estes, because it’s the most straightforward and I may find a perfect male candidate for Y-DNA. If someone’s “screen name” doesn’t show as Estes, they won’t appear in the results of this search. In other words, if your Ancestry screen name is “robertaestes” you won’t show in this search, but “Roberta Estes” will.

For mitochondrial DNA, you would want to search for the surname in your matches’ trees. Unfortunately, you cannot search for the specific ancestor in someone’s tree, at least not directly.

Of my 19 Estes surname matches, ten are males, and of them:

  • Three have unlinked trees
  • Three have very small linked trees, but I can work on extending those if need be
  • Three have public linked trees AND a common ancestor, which means ThruLines

I can review which ancestor we share by clicking on my match’s name

The Estes side of this man’s tree has only one person and is marked “private,” but Ancestry has suggested common ancestors based on other people’s trees. (Yes, I know trees are dicey, but bear with me.)

It’s also worth mentioning that you can be related through multiple lines. I share surnames from Acadian lines with this man, but that really doesn’t matter here because I’m only using autosomal matching to find an Estes male.

Click on “View Relationship” to see our common Estes ancestor’s ThruLine.

The ThruLine shows how Ancestry thinks we’re related on the Estes line.

I can also click on “View ThruLines” to see all Thrulines for John R. Estes, which shows four additional males, some of which did NOT appear in the Estes surname search, and some of which don’t appear further up the tree. In other words, check all Estes ThruLine ancestor generations.

Don’t rely solely on Ancestry’s surname search.

Go directly to your ThruLines on the DNA menu.

Ancestry only reaches back seven generations, which for me is Moses Estes and Luremia Combs. Moses has 95 matches, but he has been given some incorrect children. Again, for this purpose, it doesn’t matter. Within all ThruLine matches, I found three Estes males who all descend through John R. Estes. Check every generation.

However, Luremia Combs shows promise for mitochondrial DNA descendants. Unfortunately, only two of her daughters are represented in ThruLines, and both of their descendants descend through Luremia’s grandsons. That’s too bad, because I need Luremia’s mitochondrial DNA line.

It’s easy to message your Ancestry matches. You may want to mention that they can upload their DNA file to FamilyTreeDNA for free where they will receive more matches and males will receive a complimentary mid-level Y-DNA haplogroup.

Please note that, in general, ThruLines need to be evaluated very carefully and are prone to errors, especially if you accept Ancestry’s suggestions of ancestors instead of carefully building out your own tree. Regardless, you can still find Estes cousin matches in your match list and by using ThruLines to find people that do not show up in an “Estes” match search.

Step 8 – At 23andMe

At 23andMe, you can search for anyone who either has the Estes surname or has included that surname in their “Family surnames” list. Keep in mind that your matches at 23andMe are restricted to either 1500 if you don’t have a subscripition, or about 4500 if you do have a subscription.

On my match list, I have two males with the Estes surname.

23andMe provides a mid-level Y-DNA haplogroup. You can’t use this to confirm the lineage when comparing with FamilyTreeDNA, especially given that 23andMe provides no genealogy or user-provided tree, but it is a clue.

Both Estes men at 23andMe have Y-DNA haplogroup R-CTS241. You could use this in some cases to potentially eliminate these matches at 23andMe. For example, if men in your lineage in the Estes project are in haplogroup R and your 23andMe matches are showing as haplogroup E, or any other base haplogroup, their common ancestor is tens of thousands of years ago.

Comparing the 23andMe haplogroup, which in this case is about 4500 years old, to contemporary testers who have taken the Big Y-700, which reaches within a few generations, isn’t terribly useful. These matches are extremely useful to identify individuals to reach out to for further information and potentially offer a Y-DNA testing scholarship at FamilyTreeDNA.

Remember, this also applies to females who have included Estes in their family surnames, given that they may have Estes male relatives.

By clicking to view your match, you can see if they have provided Family Background information, including a link to a family tree someplace.

Sometimes, there’s great information here, and other times, nothing.

You can’t verify this lineage without genealogy information.

I suggest leaving a genealogy-focused message, including where they can see your tree in addition to your Estes connection. Also include your e-mail.

You may want to say that if they descend appropriately, you have a Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA testing scholarship, or you may want to wait to see how they descend. You can also ask if they have already taken a Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA test at FamilyTreeDNA.

Step 9 – FamilySearch and Relatives at RootsTech

We’re getting ready for RootsTech 2025 which takes place in March. In the month or so before the last two RootsTechs, FamilySearch provided an absolutely wonderful tool called “Relatives at RootsTech.”

I’ve written about this several times, but essentially, you can see, by ancestor, other people who are registered both in-person and virtually for RootsTech, and how they descend.

Here’s an example.

In both years, I’ve found several people who descended from common ancestors AND were very willing to take the relevant DNA test. That’s a huge win-win for everyone.

The best part is that because these people have freshly registered for RootsTech, the reply rate is almost 100%.

I’ll write about this as soon as RootsTech makes it available this year. Fingers crossed that they do!

Step 10 – Social Media

Social media wouldn’t be my first choice to find DNA testers, but I have found perfectly willing cousins this way. You may be less successful on Facebook or other social media platforms, but if you’re striking out elsewhere, there’s absolutely no downside to trying.

You can enter a surname and search on Facebook, but I prefer to do a Google search like “Estes genealogy on Facebook” or even just “Estes genealogy,” which will produce far more widespread information, some of which may be irrelevant.

That Facebook Google search provided the names of two groups. People join groups because they have an interest, and I’ve had good luck in Facebook genealogy groups.

A Search of “Estes” on Facebook itself, then selecting “people” provided a list of Estes Facebook users.

I’ve had far better luck by joining a group that is focused on Estes genealogy, or even a county genealogy group that includes Estes families, than individuals. People who join any Estes group or project likely have an interest in that surname.

If you have a common surname, or there’s a park named after your surname, like Estes Park, you’ll probably want to focus by using Google searches for Estes genealogy.

The Descendants of Abraham Estes Facebook group has 222 members, of whom at least 31 are males with the Estes surname. Facebook just might be an underestimated resource.

If there isn’t a genealogy-focused group for your surname, you might want to consider starting one and encouraging people to join.

It can’t hurt, and it just might help. Before you start reaching out to random people on Facebook, please do a privacy checkup – I wrote about how, here.

Sale Prices

Remember, the sale prices at FamilyTreeDNA for new tests and upgrades last through year-end.

In my experience, it’s best to test as soon as someone agrees. You never know what will happen otherwise. I’ve had people pass away before they could swab. And yes, we’ve done funeral home swabs, too.

There’s no one-size-fits-all, but here’s a rough draft contact letter.

Potential Contact Letter

You’ll want to include several critical pieces of information.

Essentially:

  • Introduce yourself
  • Say their full name on their test AND the testing company in the title of an email. I manage many tests and if I receive an email that says, “Hi, can you tell me how we match” without telling me which person they match, I can’t even begin to answer.
  • Explain your genealogy connection
  • State your purpose in writing
  • Explain how a specific test will help them too
  • Offer to answer questions

Be sure to modify this letter to reflect your own voice and circumstances. You don’t want this to read like a form letter.

Dear cousin (insert their full name here,)

It was so nice to find our DNA match at <company name> (or we share a common ancestor, or appropriate circumstance.) (If you are managing someone else’s kit, say the name of who they match and explain that you manage their DNA kit.)

I descend from (ancestor plus birth and death date) who lived in Halifax County, Virginia and was married to (spouse.) You can view my tree at (insert link that does not require a subscription for viewing unless you match them on that platform. I use MyHeritage because everyone can view their trees)

I would very much like to confirm that our line descends from Abraham Estes (or relevant information meaning your reason for wanting them to test.)

Given that my surname is x (or I’m a female), we need to test the Y-DNA of a male who is descended from (ancestor) through all males to the current generation. (Or mitochondrial DNA descended through females to the current generation which can be male.)

FamilyTreeDNA provides this testing and shows who you match on that specific line using the Y chromosome (mitochondrial DNA).

This testing may connect us with earlier ancestors. Genetics can be used to determine when we share common Estes ancestors with others who test, where we come from overseas, and when. Even if we match ancient DNA samples that may tell us where our ancestors lived before surnames. In other words, where did we come from?

(Include a nice paragraph, but not a book about your ancestral lineage here.)

I have a DNA testing scholarship for someone from this line and you are the perfect candidate. I would like to take advantage of the current sales. If you’re interested, I only need two things from you.

First, permission so that I can order (or upgrade) and pay for the test, and second, an address where to send the test (unless it’s an upgrade). (If it’s an upgrade at FamilyTreeDNA, they can use a stored sample or will sent them a new kit if there’s not enough DNA.)

If you have any questions, please let me know. I’m very excited that we may be able to learn more about our heritage.

Please email me at xxx or call me at xxx if you have questions.

Your name

I know one person who offers to review results over Zoom. Someone else stresses that the tester’s email is attached to their test and they are always in control of their results. Another person asks them to join a project they manage to assure that they can follow their matches over time.

Customize this communication in your own voice and to fit the circumstances of each match.

It’s just me, but since I’m ordering while the tests are on sale, unless the person uploads their DNA file from another vendor, I add on a Family Finder test too and explain why. You never know if they will match you or another cousin, and they may have that match that eventually breaks down the next brick wall. Shared matches are powerful evidence and it’s a lot easier to add that test on now than try to contact them again later.

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There’s so much to learn. Don’t leave information on the table by virtue of omission.

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Genealogy Proof Series – Creating Genealogy Proof Tables

This is the fifth article in the Genealogy Proof Series.

For maximum advantage, I recommend reading these articles in publication order.

In earlier articles, we’ve detailed how to gather resources for specific locations, how and where to search for surnames and the process of extracting and recording information from those sources.

Now, it’s time to use that information and assemble it in a logical way to provide “proof” that the person by the name of “John Smith,” or whoever you’re seeking, is actually YOUR John Smith.

I use a technique that I call Genealogy Proof Tables. We will cover two types here. You’ll need the first one to complete the second one.

Genealogy Proof Tables

Genealogy proof tables have two purposes:

  • Individual Proof Tables – For an individual ancestor, to compile the various pieces of evidence to prove a connection to their parent or parents and their child or children.
  • Lineage Proof Table – Evidence for an entire lineage, proving connections between all of the individuals in the lineage, one by one in both directions. For a lineage proof table we prove a connection to the parent and also to the descendant that is your ancestor for each generation.

Please note that sometimes you actually wind up disproving a relationship, or realizing you need more information, but that’s equally as important. Nothing worse than wasting time by barking up the wrong tree.

A genealogy proof table is a working document that can be used to focus on each ancestor in every ancestral line. What’s included in a proof table varies by which records are available, the timeframe and circumstances.

You may want to prepare proof tables to help yourself focus and evaluate your data. Proof tables can be sent to someone who asks questions like:

  • How do you know that?
  • What is your proof?
  • What are your sources to identify John as the son of George?

People should be asking those questions, and researchers should be able to answer them. You need to answer them for yourself for your own ancestors, even if no one asks.

The answer to these questions may well be that you’re still working on “proof,” but you’ll at least want to have documented everything available to date. For me, doing these exercises helps me think about what’s still missing and looking for additional sources if I actually don’t have “proof.”

Generally, I create a proof table for a specific ancestor, which I then roll up into a comprehensive proof table for the line. This approach helps me identify which pieces of evidence are conclusive and which ones are not.

The purpose of a proof table is to compile and rank information about that ancestor’s connection to their parents, including negative evidence. It’s not meant to be “everything I know” about that ancestor, just the things that relate to proving that this ancestor is in FACT the child of his parent or parents.

What is Proof?

Isn’t this the question of the ages for genealogists? I wrote an article, Ancestors: What Constitutes Proof?, here. In that article, I’ve provided a list of what isn’t proof and some challenges you may face.

Aside from what I’ll term normal genealogy roadblocks to be overcome, there are other challenges as well.

For example, you can have a birth certificate, a death certificate, a will, and personal knowledge that a person lived with their parents – but that child could have been adopted, or the father might not have been the biological father.

In this case, paper proof, no matter how compelling, isn’t actual proof. It can prove the identity of the person, but alone, cannot prove a biological relationship connection.

Sometimes, DNA evidence outweighs everything else, but without DNA evidence, paper proof is the closest we can get. The BCG defines the Genealogical Proof Standard, here.

We need our evidence to be as conclusive as possible.

What does Conclusive Mean?

Conclusive evidence means that any other evidence cannot reliably contradict it, or it’s so strong that it overbears any other evidence. (Thank you Bar Prep Hero.)

In a nutshell, that’s your goal – and all evidence is not created equal.

Evidence is Weighted

Some evidence is better or more solid than other evidence.

Furthermore, sometimes one single piece of evidence isn’t conclusive, but multiple pieces of evidence, taken together, create a body of work and are considered a “preponderance of evidence.” Having said that, I often cringe when I hear that term because sometimes it means there really isn’t good evidence or not enough research has been done.

How good is good enough? You can only work with what’s available and what you have. Unfortunately, one cannot unburn the courthouse!

Sometimes, you’ll need to use DNA evidence. From my perspective, you ALWAYS need to utilize DNA evidence to confirm at least the closest generations.

By closest, I mean that second cousins or closer always match, and you can often reliably use autosomal DNA within, minimally, 5 or 6 generations, but circumstances vary.

Many times I have solid matches to descendants of ancestors 9 or 10 generations in the past, but as you can see in this graphic created by Dr. Paul Maier at FamilyTreeDNA, beginning at eight generations, you may not inherit any DNA from a particular ancestor. Of course, to match someone else, you both need to have inherited the same DNA segment(s) from that ancestor.

You can almost always use Y-DNA to establish relationships beyond what autosomal can confirm, but with both Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA, you need someone who is appropriately descended from the ancestor in question, as illustrated in this three-generation chart. Sometimes, you need two people descended from that ancestor, preferably through different children, because their Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA needs to match.

Every situation is different.

How Much Evidence is Enough?

It depends.

Enough for what?

  • Enough to prove that your parent is the child of their parents?
  • Enough to prove to yourself that you’re searching in the right ancestral line?
  • Enough to prove that this John Doe is the same John Doe that moved from Virginia to someplace else, or conversely, the John Doe in Missouri is the one who moved from Virginia?
  • Enough to quality for a lineage society?

Again, from my perspective, enough is not enough until you have looked at every piece of evidence that even MIGHT be relevant for that ancestor.

Essentially, all of this is a bit fluid, so let’s look at an example.

Individual Proof Table

Let’s begin with a proof table for one person.

I’m going to create a proof table to attempt to prove that my paternal grandfather, William George Estes, is the son of Lazarus Estes and Elizabeth Vannoy.

I’ll be using actual documents and information from my files.

If you want to read my 52 Ancestors articles about these people, you can find William George Estes, here, Lazarus Estes, here, and Elizabeth Vannoy, here. I’m not specifically trying to prove that my father, William Sterling Estes, is the son of William George Estes, but some documents cover both men – plus, there’s the possibility of same-name confusion, given that both of their first names are William. I swear, every generation in this family has both Johns and Williams.

To begin, there are a few mandatory categories on every chart. For example, I always use the census when it’s available. You should include these categories even if you don’t have evidence for them, because it reminds you if you’ve searched and the search came up with nothing.

Some categories would be expanded, such as Organizational Societies. For example, if there’s a separate History and Genealogy Society for that county, you would want to check both, as well as the local library and regional or state organizations.

You’ll notice that I’ve assigned a weight to each piece of evidence. Weighting is subjective. Aunt Margaret was the daughter of Wiliam George Estes, so she should know – but often, she didn’t provide any source, like a document or Bible, and she was a bit “eccentric.” In some circumstances, I might weigh what she provided as a 5, but in the first item, I only gave it a 4 because she provided other dates that I found to be erroneous. Memories do fail people.

Red items are direct, confirming evidence of the relationship and that the William George Estes, my grandfather, is the same William George Estes who is the son of Lazarus Estes. Names are spelled or misspelled the way they are in the original source.

William George Estes Information Source Weight (1-5) Comments
Birth March 30, 1873 Aunt Margaret 4 Birth certificates not available in 1873
Father Lazarus Estes
Mother Elizabeth Vannoy
Identity of Parents From letters and discussions 1980s, 1990s Aunt Margaret, Aunt Minnie, children and grandchildren of William G. Estes 5 They knew their grandparents
1880 Census Wm. G. Estis age 7, listed with parents Lazarus and Elisibeth Estis, and siblings, including sister Cornie Claiborne County, TN Dist 8, page 107 on Ancestry 5 Family lives between William G.’s future wife’s uncles
1890 Census destroyed
Marriage Ollie Bolton, Sept 26, 1892. Claiborne County Marriage Index, page 382 5 No parents given
1900 census William G. age 27, with wife, Ollie, and two children Claiborne County, TN Dist 8, page 113 5 Lives next door to Lazarus and Elizabeth Estes and next to his sister Cornie and her husband
1910 census Age 38, with Ollie and two children, Estle and Robert Claiborne County, Civil Dist 4 5 Lives beside sister Cornie and her husband, three houses from Lazarus
Home Location – 1913 Family photos taken in 1913 and labeled “Fowler” Provided by Margaret 5 Written on the back of the family pictures
Home Location Fowler, Indiana Sept 1915 Newspaper article 5 Sons Wm. and Joe ran away and were returned to parents in Fowler
William G. Estes’s divorce from Ollie Fowler, Indiana Aunt Margaret 3 Ollie caught him cheating with her cousin Joyce Hatfield, who was visiting them in Indiana
Divorce from Ollie Unknown, maybe 1916 or 1917 Inferred
Children William S. and Joe “run away” to their grandparents 1915/1916 Fowler, Indiana to Claiborne County, TN Aunt Margaret’s letter, Uncle George, 1915 newspaper articles stated that they tried to run away but got caught 5 Margaret said that when William G. and Ollie divorced,  neither wanted sons Wm. and Joe, 13 and 11, and the boys jumped trains to make their way back to their grandparents, Lazarus and Elizabeth
William George returned to Claiborne County 1916/1917 ish Uncle George Estes, family historian 5 Lazarus was furious when William G. returned after cheating on Ollie and abandoning the boys and threw William G. out of Estes Holler
Move to Harlan County, KY After being thrown out of Estes Holler when he and Ollie divorced Uncle George, Aunt Margaret, Estel’s daughter 5 Settled in Harlan County, KY, just over the border from Claiborne Co., TN
Divorce from Ollie Unknown, about 1916/1917ish Fowler, Ind newspaper August 30, 1917 2 Ollie listed without Wm G and as visiting where she used to live
Marriage Joyce Hatfield, unknown if or when/where married Census, daughter Virginia’s birth Nov. 1918. 3 Inferred, no document found
Child Irene’s Death* August 1, 1916 – Irene Estes, mother Joyce Fury Shawnee, Claiborne Co., TN Informant of the death of daughter, Irenia.

*Please note that this has since been disproven. This William B. Estes who married Josie Fury is not our William G. Estes who married Joicie Hatfield.

Military/draft Registration – signed Sept. 12, 1918, gives birthdate as March 30, 1873 Tazewell, Claiborne County, TN 5 Wife is listed Joisce Estes.
1920 census Age 47, lives with Joise and daughter Virginia Claiborne Civil District 4 5 Future third wife, Crosha Brewer, and her child are living with them as lodgers
Divorce Joice Hatfield Unknown, approx 1921 or 1922 inferred Based on Crosha’s children’s ages
Son William S. Estes’s marriage to Martha Dodder Dec. 12, 1921 Calhoun County, MI 5 Parents are given as Ollie Estes and W. G. Estes
Wm G. Estes child with Croshia Brewer Josephine born March 19, 1923 Springdale, Arkansas 5 Birth certificate, death certificate, census
William George Estes Marriage Croshia Louise Brewer, Feb. 3, 1925, Wise County, VA VA Marriage Registers, page 171 5 Parents given as Lazarus & Elizabeth Estes
1930 census Cannot find the family
1940 census Age 67, living with Crochie and their 2 daughters Harlan Co., KY Lynch dist 5
1940s or 50s Photo with “his sister Cornie” and also one with “Worth Epperson” Claiborne County, TN 5 Photo is labeled and provided by Cornie’s family, who knew him
1950 census 76, lives with Crocie, daughter and boarder Harlan County, KY 5 My mother visited William G. and Crocie with my father in the 1950s.
Cornie Estes Epperson’s 1958 death certificate Born June 22, 1878 to Lazarus Estes and Betty Vannoy, age 79, died Feb. 18, 1958 Death Certificate 5 Correlates to census dates and other data indicating she is the daughter of Lazarus and sister of William G.
Cornie Epperson Obituary Gives Will Estes, of Lynch, KY as her brother. Newspaper clipping 4 Does not give her paents
William Sterling Estes obituary Aug. 28, 1963, Star Press in Muncie, Indiana, page 3 Residence Dunkirk, IN 4 Lists surviving father as W. G. Estes, Cumberland, KY
William George Estes’s death Nov 29, 1971, lived in Harlan Co., KY Kentucky Death Index 5 Parents not given
Obituary Parents not given, living children include Estil, Virginia, Margaret, and Minnie, their locations provided Nov. 30, 1971, Middlesboro Tribune 4 His nephew, Cornie Estes Epperson’s son, Kermit Epperson is a pallbearer
Social Security Claims Index for William G. Jan. 15, 1972 claim, birth 1873 Ancestry 5 SS # given, but no parents given
Social Security Claims Index for my father, William Sterling Estes No claim filed
Will No, rechecked film at FamilySearch 7-8-2024.
Legal No, checked court index in Harlan County
Land Tax No tax lists
Personal Tax No tax lists
Deeds Yes, 1915 deed from Lazarus to Cornie and Worth Epperson where they must pay his other heirs Claiborne County deed book, in person 5 Cornie Estes Epperson to pay William Estes $120
William George Estes signed receipt and release On July 22, 1957, Will signed on the edge of the above deed, releasing the claim on the deed and stating that the $120 had been paid. 5 Confirms his relationship to Lazarus Estes and Cornie Estes Epperson
Sibling Documents Have not looked extensively beyond Cornie
Newspapers Need to revisit when Claiborne County, TN newspapers are digitized
Organizational Searches such as Historical Societies Have not looked recently, need to recheck local libraries
DNA ThruLines to John Y. Estes, father of Lazarus Estes Ancestry 5 Proven via 35 cousin connections to Lazarus’s parents through 3 of John’s siblings
DNA Lazarus Estes ThruLines at Ancestry through Lazarus’s children Ancestry 5 20 matches, 9 through William George, 7 through Cornie, 5 through Charlie Thomas Estes
DNA at FamilyTreeDNA My autosomal matches to Buster Estes, Lazarus’s grandson FamilyTreeDNA 5 Including 556 matches in common and many triangulated segments to descendants of Wm. G., Lazarus, John Y. Estes and upstream ancestors
Other Relationship to wives and children Letters from Aunt Margaret 3 or 4 Clearly states relationship of William G. and Lazarus
Other Relationship to wives and children Letters from William G. to my father 3 or 4 Clearly states relationship of William G. with his siblings and family members

Some types of information are notably unreliable. For example, obituaries may omit people or confuse relationships. William George Estes’s obituary omits his daughter and incorrectly notes her husband, his son-in-law, as William’s child.

Death certificates often give parents incorrectly, especially the mother’s birth surname.

The names of parents in both obituaries and on death certificates are often third-hand information provided by people who are at least two generations removed and are under significant stress at that time. My mother’s obituary was republished two times due to errors made AFTER I provided correct information.

We have several pieces of information that strongly suggest that the William George Estes who was born to Lazarus Estes and Elizabeth Vannoy is the same William George Estes that married Ollie Bolton, but there’s more.

We know for sure that William Estes, who married Croshie/Crosha Brewer, is the same person because his parents are given in the county marriage record book. This is first-hand information and judged to be more reliable because we can reasonably expect that William George knew who his parents were, or at least who they were supposed to be.

If we discount entirely the fact that my aunts personally knew Lazarus as their grandfather, and look only at the paper evidence, we just need to tie William George in his later life to the same William George in his earlier life.

Here’s a photo passed from William George’s daughters to me. Cornie Epperson’s grandchildren had this same photo showing William George Estes with his sister, Cornie Epperson.

Here’s another with Will Estes and Cornie’s husband, Worth Epperson.

Cornie’s children told many stories about their Uncle Will, who rode the bus from Harlan County to Claiborne County, as he didn’t drive. The legendary favorite story was about the time that Will had a bullet in his shirt pocket. It accidentally got mixed into his pipe tobacco, which he put into his pipe and was smoking on the bus.

Yes, the bullet blew up. No one was hurt, and miraculously, the driver didn’t crash. Nevertheless, Will was banished from riding the bus forever thereafter.

That story alone connects the William George Estes living in Lynch, in Harlan County, as the same person, as do his children from all three wives. So do letters from my aunt to family members discussing several people involved, and letters from Will himself in the early 1960s detailing some pretty spicy antics.

However, we’re looking for more than oral history. What other documents do we have?

The Smoking Deed

This deed serves, in essence, as the will of Lazarus Estes and his wife, both of whom conveyed this deed.

Thankfully, it identifies both Cornie and William as their heirs, along with several other children, although it never actually states that the people mentioned are their children. The census confirms that these people, Cornie and William George, along with Martha (Estes) Norris, Charlie Estes, and Lum (James Columbus) Estes mentioned, are their children.

If you’re still wondering if William George Estes is their son, notice the release of lien, stamped on the upper left-hand side of the page decades later, in 1957, with his signature.

This signature matches Will’s other handwriting on letters that he sent in the 1960s, in my possession, and on my father’s delayed birth certificate signed in 1952.

This document provides their relationship, the type of evidence submitted, and both of their addresses and signatures. Evidence doesn’t get much better than this.

For additional signature confirmation, William G. signed his 1918 draft registration in Claiborne County. In Harlan County, KY, in 1957, he signed the delayed birth certificate for his son, Estle, who was born in Springdale, Arkansas, in November of 1894.

When Evidence Isn’t Conclusive

Unfortunately, this situation happens often, especially with generations further back in time where less information is available. Let’s look at an example.

Genealogists tried for years, decades actually, to identify the parents of John R. Estes.

His son was named John Y. Estes.

No one knew what the R. stood for, nor what the Y. stood for. Truthfully, we still don’t, at least not for sure.

Here’s what was said:

  • John R. Estes’s mother was Mary Younger, who was married to George Estes. This claim was made because John R.’s son was named John Y. Estes, the Y. standing for “Younger.” That was the hypothesis, but it was stated as fact.
  • The middle initial R in John R. Estes stands for Regan or Reagan because his grandson, John Reagan Estes, son of John Y. Estes, was “named for his grandfather.” This was told to me by his grandchildren who were living in the early 1990s, as information they were told.

I fully understand why one would think those are possibilities or why conclusions might be drawn. They are clearly possibilities, but without additional evidence, that’s all they are. Eventually, that possibility begins to be passed along as a fact. Then, people don’t want to question what was passed down from “people who should know.”

So, let me play devil’s advocate here.

The Y in John Y. could stand for any number of things. For example, the surname Yancey is also found in Halifax County, Virginia. Y could have come from anyplace. At that point in time, we were searching for the parents of John R. Estes, so Mary Younger seemed to make sense.

Having said that, we now know that John Y. Estes’s grandmother WAS Mary Younger, BUT, that does NOT mean that the Y. stands for Younger, nor does it serve as any kind of concrete evidence.

Might it stand for Younger? Yes, of course. But the Y itself serves only as a potential hint.

Can you use it for evidence? Nope, not without more information. I’ve searched high and low, so if you find “Younger” in a reliable record for this man, by all means, let me know. While confirmation would be wonderful, we really don’t NEED to know like we do with Reagan.

John Reagan Estes (1871-1960), the son of John Y. Estes, could well have been named for his grandfather, John R. Estes (1787-1885). John was his father’s first name as well as his grandfather’s. That does NOT mean that that Reagan was John R. Estes’s middle name. We have no idea where Reagan comes from. If I had a letter from John Reagan’s mother or sister, for example, saying John Reagan was named for his grandpa Estes, who was also named John Reagan, that would be evidence because we have a contemporaneous source and know the information wasn’t assumed or constructed later to “fit” the question about John R. Estes’s middle name.

I have dug for years for any Reagan connection to the Estes line, or to the wives’ lines in upstream generations in Virginia, hoping to prove that Reagan genealogical connection. I have never found it, although that clearly doesn’t mean it’s not there. For all we know, Reagan could have been the name of the preacher or the doctor who delivered someone. It may or may not have anything to do with John R. Estes, and even if it does, Reagan may not be an ancestral surname.

So, if you’re taking yourself down the path of ascribing too much weight to information that may or may not be evidence – don’t. What you can do that’s beneficial is more research. If you think the Y or the R might be a hint, DIG!!! You just might find that evidence. If you haven’t utilized the new FamilySearch full-text AI search, by all means, do. These are the perfect types of situations to research using this amazing tool.

Treat everything as a hint, but it’s not evidence until it’s confirmed.

While we’ve since proven that, indeed, John R. Estes is the son of Mary Younger using other types of evidence, the middle initial R. and the middle name Reagan two generations later still is and may remain a mystery.

In the Weeds

At this point, you might be thinking that we are SO FAR DOWN IN THE WEEDS, and you’d be right, but the answers to our specific question are found here.

Our original goal was to prove that William George Estes was the son of Lazarus Estes and Elizabeth Vannoy.

The items bolded in red in the Individual Proof Table for William George Estes, above, individually and certainly cumulatively “prove” that relationship, as far as a paper trail can go.

The other information, especially taken together, supports that and, more importantly, does not dispute or provide contradictory or conflicting evidence about any of the other evidence. In other words, we have concensus.

Lineage Proof Table

The table below is designed to document the proof that the individual listed under the name column is, in fact, the child of the father and mother below. Other information from the Individual Proof Table that we completed above is omitted because it’s not needed in a Lineage Proof Table.

The Proof rows between the child and their parents are the proof, or the best evidence we have, that connects the child conclusively to the parent or parents. Sometimes that proof can arrive indirectly, such as a sibling’s obituary that lists your ancestor as their sibling – allowing you to connect the sibling who died and your ancestor both to their parents through the census or other documents.

Proof listed will vary and could be personal knowledge (someone you knew within your lifetime), a Bible, a will, a deed, an obituary, a church baptismal document, a pension application, census records, and more.

The best proof, of course, is multiple contemporaneous pieces of evidence.

Proof can also be negative proof. For example, if there was a will but this person was missing, that should be noted. However, that alone is NOT negative proof, as sometimes a child who had already received their inheritance was not mentioned. It does need to be listed because, when combined with other evidence, it may become very important. So is the wording of the will. For example, does it say “all my children,” but omit the person you’re searching for?

Proofs also must take into consideration things like individuals with the same name. In other words, we need to prove that THAT particular John was the son of THAT particular George.

There are times when one must dig deeply as well as far and wide, using siblings and the FAN (friends and neighbors) methodology to reveal a nugget or put enough information together from multiple sources to prove a relationship collectively. For example, I have found proof two generations downstream in Virginia chancery suits that detail the descendants of someone who died and left a will two or three generations earlier.

If this Lineage Proof Table was for my own use, I would utilize a spreadsheet, and I would provide links and more detailed information. For ease of use in this article, I’ve constructed a chart here.

The entire purpose of this lineage document is to unquestionably connect the generations. If these proofs are strong and unquestionable, the only piece of evidence that could upend all of them, together, is an unknown DNA event where a parent or parents are not the individuals reflected in the non-genetic proofs.

Name Birth & Loc Death & Loc Father Mother DNA Confirmed
Me William Sterling Estes Separate lineage proof for mother’s line Father confirmed via paternal half-sister’s children and cousins’ autosomal DNA matches..
Proof My birth certificate, newspaper announcements
Proof Father’s obituary
Proof Social Security application after my father’s death
Proof Personal knowledge, photos, and memories
Proof DNA match at the expected level to my half-sister’s descendants and our upstream Estes relatives
William Sterling Estes Oct. 1, 1902 or 3, Tazewell, TN Aug. 27, 1963, Jay County, IN William George Estes 1873-1971 Ollie Bolton 1874-1955 Autosomal DNA matches to multiple Estes cousins & half-sister’s children
Proof Census and newspaper articles identifying my father as his parents’ child
Proof My father’s marriage license, personal knowledge, and his delayed birth certificate
Proof Death certificate and obituary
Proof Aunts’ knowledge and family letters
William George Estes March 30, 1873, Tazewell, TN Nov. 29, 1971, Harlan Co., KY Lazarus Estes 1845-1916/1918 Elizabeth Vannoy 1846-1918 Autosomal DNA triangulated to multiple descendants of both Lazarus Estes and Elizabeth Vannoy.
Proof Deed to Worth and Cornie Epperson where Lazarus lists William George Estes as one of his heirs – Claiborne Co., Deed Book M2, page 371.
Proof Various censuses showing parents and siblings, including sister Cornie Estes Epperson
Proof Marriage license to Crocie Brewer lists his parents
Proof Cousin George Estes knew these people and was at the funeral of Lazarus when he was a child, plus Aunt Margaret’s letters
Lazarus Estes May 1845, Claiborne Co., TN 1916-1918, Claiborne Co., TN John Y. Estes 1818-1895 Rutha Dodson 1820-1903 Y-DNA confirmed to haplogroup of Moses Estes, autosomal triangulated to descendants of Lazarus and Elizabeth and upstream ancestors through multiple matches.
Proof 1850 and 1860 census with his parents, 1870 census where he lives one house from parents with wife and children, 1880 census where his wife is still living a few houses from his parents, with their children, and John is found in Montague Co., TX
Proof October 1865 deed where John Y. Estes deeds all his possessions to his eldest son, Lazarus. Claiborne Co., Deed book B1, page 37
John Y. Estes December 29, 1818, Halifax Co., VA Sept. 19, 1895, Montague Co., TX John R. Estes 1785/88-1885 Nancy Ann Moore c 1785-1860/1870 Y-DNA confirmed through multiple sons. Autosomal triangulates to several descendants through multiple lines of other children.
Proof Personal written knowledge of Claiborne County attorney, P. G. Fulkerson, published in the local newspaper who listed parents, wife, siblings, and children of John Y. Estes and wife and children of John R. Estes
Proof John R. Estes signed as a witness for John Y. Estes in 1865 when he deeded goods to son Lazarus “for natural love and affection.” In 1850 census John R. Estes lives near sons Jechonias and John Y. Estes
Proof John Y. Estes’s and John R. Estes’s death conveyed in letters between family in Claiborne County, TN, Texas, and Oklahoma
John R. Estes 1785-1788, Halifax Co., VA May 1885, Claiborne Co., TN George Estes 1763-1869 Mary Younger  ~1775-1820/1830 Y-DNA confirmed through multiple lines. Autosomal confirmed triangulation of multiple lines of his children and his ancestors. Descendants’ DNA triangulates to that of Nancy Ann Moore’s ancestors.
Proof Halifax County 1812 personal property tax list where John R. Estes is listed as the son of George Estes and lives next to him.
Proof Halifax Co., VA chancery suit dealing with property of Moses Estes, father of George Estes, lists John R. and his wife’s name and location in Tennessee as Moses’s descendants.
Proof War of 1812 pension application
George Estes Feb. 3, 1763, Amelia Co., VA July 1859, Halifax Co., VA Moses Estes Jr. 1742-1813 Luremia Combs c1742-1820/1830 Y-DNA haplogroup descended from Moses Estes Sr. 1711-1787 and autosomal from his maternal and paternal lines, both.

I’ll stop here because you clearly understand the process. If I were applying for membership in a lineage society, I would simply continue this chart until I reached the individual in question. In this example, George Estes is a Revolutionary War soldier, so I could apply for DAR membership, assuming I meet their various criteria.

Another aid in documenting your ancestors is lineage organizations and their records, but keep in mind that their evidence, especially that submitted decades ago, may not be sufficient today.

DNA Confirmation

DNA can either confirm this relationship, even without a paper trail, or conversely, it can burn it all down.

The closer in time a DNA relationship is, the more likely you’ll be able to confirm it using autosomal DNA.

Sometimes, Y-DNA is a consideration, and it certainly would be in this circumstance, except that I’m not a male, and we don’t have a living Estes male descended directly from William George Estes (through all males) to test.

Mitochondrial DNA can’t be used in this circumstance either since William George Estes’s children have their mother’s mitochondrial DNA, not his.

For the purposes of today’s proof, I used the Family Finder autosomal DNA test.

Buster Estes, now deceased, grandson of Lazarus Estes through his son Charlie Tomas Estes, is my 1C1R, (first cousin once removed). He tested both his Y-DNA and took the autosomal  Family Finder test for me many years ago.

Additionally, Cornie Epperson’s grandchild and great-grandchild, my second cousin and 2C1R, agreed to autosomal DNA testing for me as well. Cornie’s grandchild agreed to test their mitochondrial DNA, which descends from Elizabeth Vannoy – for which I remain immensely grateful.

All of these cousins match me, as well as each other, appropriately, as would be expected for their respective relationships to me and to each other.

Since then, additional descendants of Lazarus Estes and Elizabeth Vannoy have tested and match others at the appropriate, expected level.

I also match other descendants of Elizabeth Vannoy’s parents, as do my cousins, so I can literally walk both Estes and Vannoy segments back in time.

In this case, NOT matching close Estes relatives would conclusively prove that I’m NOT related to the more distant Estes family.

However, if I didn’t match, it’s also possible that my father would not have matched those people either. I don’t have a full sibling through my father, but I do have a half-sibling whose descendants I match appropriately for the expected relationship. That proves that I’m my father’s biological child.

My half-sister died before DNA testing. NOT matching my sister’s descendants would confirm that we were not sisters, meaning we did not share the same father. One or the other of us would probably match Estes descendants, such as our second cousins. Fortunately, we match each other and Estes descendants.

Unfortunately, my half-brother Dave did not match me, nor any Estes family members, providing that we did not share a biological father – a heartbreaking discovery. He’s still my brother though, just not biologically, and I loved him dearly. (For the record, I found Dave’s father and his family after his death.)

I can prove that my father descends from his father because I also match the descendants of my father’s paternal half-siblings, as expected.

I also match (and triangulate with) the descendants of my grandfather’s sibling, Cornie Epperson, as expected, which proves my connection back to Lazarus and, therefore, my father and grandfather’s connection to Lazarus, too.

By the time we reach John R. Estes, son of George Estes, we can also use Y-DNA. While I personally can’t test for the Estes Y-DNA, a descendant of John R. Estes has taken the Big Y-700 test, needed for this level of detail, and they match the unique mutation (R-ZS3700) that occurred between Abraham Estes and his son Moses Estes Sr., then descended through Moses Jr. to George to John R., then on to our tester, confirming this paternal lineage.

Furthermore, I and other descendants of Lazarus Estes autosomally match Y-DNA descendants of John R. Estes as would be expected of 3rd or 4th cousins.

Therefore, by proxy, using both Y-DNA and Family Finder, we are all confirmed to descend from this entire Estes lineage, to and including Lazarus Estes and his son, William George Estes, through my father to me.

Whew!!!

Summary

Yes, it was a long, detailed path to get here using both traditional genealogical research and DNA results, but we did, and that’s really all that matters. I probably provided more examples than I really needed to, but I’m trying to answer as many “what about this” questions as I can, in advance. The Proof Table methodology isn’t cast in concrete and is easy to replicate and adapt based on your situation and the records at hand.

My final word of caution would be to make sure you don’t discount or omit negative evidence inadvertently. I made that mistake when I was less experienced because I didn’t realize the importance of negative evidence.

I’ve seen situations where a resource was not recorded because there “was nothing there,” when the fact that “nothing was there” is in itself important negative evidence that needs to be weighed and considered.

That’s one reason why preparing a list of all the resources in a particular area is so important. When you discover new resources or they become available, be sure to record and check those resources. For example, if a tax list for a particular county or district is uncovered, record that resource, even if the person you’re seeking isn’t listed there. The next question to ask is why they would not be listed, which may lead you to seek out or perhaps reevaluate other information.

Future Topics

I have three more articles planned in this series and expect to publish the next one in the winter.

  • DNA as Proof – or Not
  • Leveling up
  • Writing it Up

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23andMe Trouble – Step-by-Step Instructions to Preserve Your Data and Matches

I don’t know what the future holds for 23andMe, but the financial floodwaters are rising. I’ve been torn about whether I should risk alarming people, perhaps unnecessarily, by writing about this, and if so, exactly what to say.

I’ve decided that the responsible action is to share my concerns with you and suggest that you act proactively – just in case.

Contrary to linking within this article which is what I normally do, I’m placing a list of relevant articles about what’s happening at 23andMe at the end for your reference. There are quite a few. I’ve located reputable articles without paywalls. There are even more publications today.

What’s Going On?

If you’re following the saga of 23andMe, you’ll know that they have been in financial trouble for some time, worsened by their data breach in October 2023. Not only was customer information accessed and downloaded, but 23andMe reacted extremely slowly, which made the situation worse. Lawsuits followed. I’ve written about the deteriorating situation several times.

Their financial situation has continued its decline ever since.

Recent developments, including the inability of Anne Wojcicki to raise funding to take the company private again, the $30 million data breach settlement this week, a further drop in their stock price, and just yesterday, the resignation of the board of directors in its entirety (except for Wojcicki), makes their future increasingly uncertain if not outright bleak.

Concerns

I am very concerned about the future of 23andMe. Never having experienced anything like this in our industry, I have no prediction about exactly what will happen, or when. That’s unknowable. I do know that I’m quite worried as are other professionals in this field.

I am strongly considering deleting my 23andme accounts. My personal hesitation is that I author this blog and I can’t write about 23andMe if I don’t have an account there.

Were it not for that, I would strongly consider deleting my account after recording my matches and downloading my data. 23andMe has ceased to be useful for me and has increasingly become a liability.

Please do NOT panic and run over there and delete your account without thoughtful consideration and taking these preservation measures first. Truly, I will tell you if I think you need to act on something immediately, as I have in the past.

I am NOT specifically recommending deleting your account. Everyone’s circumstances and goals are different.

For example, if you’re an adoptee fishing in all the ponds, you may want to wait. If your focus is health, you’re probably not reading this article, but that might be justification for people to wait. Or, if you’re a genealogist who wants as many matches as possible, you may want to wait and see how things shake out.

Regardless, the following recommendations ARE for everyone. Being prepared is better than being surprised.

Recommendations

Whether you choose to delete your account at 23andMe in the near future, wait, or maybe never, I have the following recommendations, just in case.

  1. Download your raw DNA data file.
  2. Preserve your matches in some fashion.
  3. Save your ethnicity segments file.

Here are step-by-step instructions for each item, plus several tips and hints.

Download Your Raw DNA File

Download your raw DNA file so that you can upload it elsewhere if you wish.

To download your raw DNA file, click on Resources, then “Browse Data.”

Select “Download” at the top of the next page where you will be prompted for your birth date.

You will then see a full page of “Important Warnings to Consider.”

Scroll to the bottom

Check the “I understand” box and then click on “Submit Request.”

You will receive an email when your file is ready to be downloaded.

If your email is not current, you will need to call or contact 23andMe support for assistance.

You can upload your 23andMe DNA file to MyHeritage, here, to GEDmatch, and to FamilyTreeDNA again soon. I’ve written instructions for uploading and downloading data to/from each vendor in the article DNA File Upload-Download and Transfer Instructions to and from DNA Testing Companies, here.

Preserve Your 23andMe Matches

Next, review and preserve your matches shown under DNA Relatives. You may want to use screenshots or create a spreadsheet, which is my recommendation. You’ll be able to retain and preserve a LOT more information using a spreadsheet, including how your matches are related to each other.

The good news, or bad news, depending on your perspective, is that unless you have paid for a subscription, you’ll only have 1500 matches to deal with. With a subscription, you’ll have up to about 5,000.

Match Information Spreadsheet

I suggest working with your closest matches first.

You’ll find your matches under “Ancestry,” then “DNA Relatives.” Matches are listed in the closest match order.

For each match you can view information, including:

  • Birth year and location
  • Your predicted relationship
  • If they are in the genetic tree that 23andMe has created for you
  • Their ancestors’ birthplaces, if they have provided that information.
  • Their family surnames
  • An important link to their family tree if they have provided that link
  • Their ethnicity which may be important if you share a common ethnicity that suggests or precludes lineages
  • High level Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups
  • Relatives in Common which are shared matches – and how much DNA your two matches share with each other
  • Any notes you’ve made

Other features previously available at 23andMe were discontinued after the breach.

If you downloaded your matches file before the October 2023 breach, you’re in luck because you can simply update that file with your new matches except for segment information. That’s what I’m doing. Your download file will be a CSV file styled “roberta_estes_relatives_download” where your name replaces mine.

If you didn’t download your matches before the breach, you can’t today, as that’s one of the features they removed after the breach.

Recording your matches’ information is the first step, but there’s an important second step too that will help you piece all of this information together.

Relatives in Common Relationship Grid

I strongly suggest creating a relationship grid detailing who matches whom for your shared matches. Yes, I know that’s a LOT of work, but it may well be worth it to wring every ounce out of your DNA matches. Plus, you can then keep it current as new matches arrive. Right now, I’ve set a goal for myself to complete 100 per day. That’s do able.

The “Relatives in Common” feature is extremely useful and facilitates constructing your tree and fitting your matches into their relative places in your tree. Relatives in Common tells you not only how much DNA you share with your matches but also their estimated relationship to each other and how much DNA they share.

To begin the process, you really only need to be able to identify “someone” and then chain people together based on shared matches and estimated relationships. I’ll show you.

To find Relatives in Common information and how much DNA they share with each other, click on a specific match, preferably one that you know, under DNA Relatives, then scroll down to “Find Relatives in Common.”

Here’s the list of matches shared between DH and me.

Here’s the beginning of the relationship spreadsheet I created.

This example shows the amount of DNA I share with my matches in the left column, then how much they share with each other. I’ve color-coded the results. Blue is my father’s paternal line. His mother’s line is not represented in these matches. Purple is my mother’s maternal line, and apricot is her paternal line.

DH is estimated by 23andMe to be my second cousin and shares 7.13% of my paternal DNA across 17 segments. DH also shares DNA with James, George, Daniel, RA, and Joyce.

You can see how much DNA any match shares with me, as well as with any other match, which I’ve entered into the chart.

Unfortunately, only one person, Patricia, has included a link to a tree, but our common ancestor was shown there. In two other cases, surnames provided information, as did previous communications. I can fit almost every one of these people into my tree, at least tentatively, using this information. Sometimes I match them at other vendors too, providing additional information.

If you used Genetic Affairs to cluster your 23andMe matches before the breach, you may already have at least part of your match and shared match information. I save everything to my computer, and I hope you did too.

I happen to know how two of these people are related to me, so I can begin my “shared tree” there, adding other people as I figure out their shared relationships. For example, if a match is my second cousin and also a second cousin to another match, chances are really good that we all share great-grandparents. Remember that 23andMe has taken a stab at genetic tree construction on their genetically created (now nearly unreadable) Family Tree, found under “Family and Friends.”

This tree may or may not help you.

Please note – if you wish to message any of your matches, you need to do that through the 23andMe internal platform, so don’t wait, do it now by clicking on your match, then “Message.”

Download Your Ethnicity Results and Segments

Download your ethnicity results and segment information so that you can use your segment location information to compare to matches from other companies that provide matching segment information.

Your ethnicity information is available under Ancestry, then Ancestry Composition, then Select Scientific Details.

Scroll all the way to the bottom – which is a LONG way.

Select the confidence level and then click on Download Raw Data.” I use 50%, but you can download each one if you want.

The resulting file holds the locations on your chromosomes of your various estimated ethnicities. You can upload that file to DNAPainter to correlate with your matches from any testing company, and with ancestors whose DNA you’ve identified.

I wrote about that, here, and have discussed how to “walk ethnicity segments back in time” using DNAPainter in several presentations. This technique is how I identified my Native American ancestor on my mother’s side, which was then confirmed by mitochondrial DNA testing on an appropriately descended individual.

Prognosis

If 23andMe remains viable, you’ll be ahead of the game. You’ll have preserved your information and may have identified some new matches and their ancestors.

However, if 23andMe doesn’t survive or is sold, you’ll have protected your investment and won’t be caught by surprise.

If you’re thinking about deleting your account, take the steps set forth above, first. The reason I’m providing this information now is so that, in case something happens, you have time to complete these tasks to protect your important information and matches.

If you choose to delete your 23andMe account, you’ll have preserved as much of your investment as possible. Remember, think before deleting because once you’ve deleted your account, you can’t undo it without testing again. This is especially important if you’re managing the DNA of someone who is now deceased. In that case, delete is irrecoverable.

Let’s just hope this all blows over, and you’ll have benefitted by finding new genealogy information.

Recent News Articles

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/31/23andme-ceo-anne-wojcicki-files-proposal-to-take-company-private-.html

https://investors.23andme.com/news-releases/news-release-details/23andme-special-committee-responds-ceos-take-private-proposal

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cybersecurity/23andme-settles-data-breach-lawsuit-30-million-2024-09-13/

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/17/23andme-independent-directors-resign-from-board-read-the-ceo-memo.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/09/18/23andme-board-turmoil-dna-test/

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/23andme-resignations-anne-wojcicki

https://investors.23andme.com/news-releases/news-release-details/independent-directors-23andme-resign-board

https://investors.23andme.com/node/9531/pdf

My Articles

https://dna-explained.com/2023/08/17/23andme-and-glaksosmithkline-partnership-ends-sparking-additional-layoffs/

https://dna-explained.com/2023/10/07/23andme-user-accounts-exposed-change-your-password-now/

https://dna-explained.com/2023/10/24/the-23andme-data-exposure-new-info-considerations-and-a-pause-strategy/

https://dna-explained.com/2023/10/29/23andme-dna-relatives-connections-event-history-report-and-other-security-tools/

https://dna-explained.com/2023/12/07/23andme-concludes-their-investigation-6-9-million-customers-data-exposed/

Six Ways to Figure Out How We’re Related

In my latest Webinar, Six Ways to Figure Out How We’re Related, I discuss the various tools from Ancestry, FamilyTreeDNA, MyHeritage, and 23andMe – plus clusters from Genetic Affairs and the amazing DNAPainter.

This webinar lives in the Legacy Family Tree Webinar library, but as part of the “webtember” lineup, you can view it for free through the end of September.

It’s always exciting to discover a new match at one of the DNA testing companies, which, of course, begs the question of how you’re related.

So, what are the six ways to figure out how you’re related, and how do you use them?

Come along for a step-by-step guide!

Shared Matches

We begin with how each vendor handles shared matches, what that feature is called, where to find the information, and how to interpret what they are telling you.

23andMe goes a step further and creates a genetic tree, of sorts, although that functionality has changed since their breach last October.

Bucketing and Sides

Two vendors go a step further and provide unique tools to divide your matches maternally and paternally.

FamilyTreeDNA buckets your matches maternally and paternally (or both) based on matches you link to their profile cards in your tree. FamilyTreeDNA then uses your linked matches to triangulate with other matches and assign your matches accordingly, providing a maternal and paternal match list. Bucketing, also known as Family Matching, is one of my favorite tools.

Note that linking matches at FamilyTreeDNA requires that you have transferred your tree to MyHeritage. I wrote about that and provided instructions here and here, and produced a complimentary webinar, too.

Ancestry also divides your matches by parent, but they use a different technique based on their Sideview technology and either ethnicity or shared matches.

Surnames and Locations

Surnames and locations, either separately or together, provide HUGE hints!

MyHeritage provides a nice summary for each of your matches that includes ancestral surnames, a map of locations in common, and “Smart Matches” which shows you people in common in both of your trees. There are several ways to use these tools.

FamilyTreeDNA also provides a list of surnames. You can view either the surnames in common with a match, or all of their ancestral surnames, with locations if provided. The tester enters these surnames, and we review how to complete that step.

Ancestry also provides shared surnames, with clickable links to the number of people in your matches tree with that surname, plus common locations.

X-DNA

X-DNA is probably the most underutilized DNA matching tool. While each of the vendors actually test the X chromosome, only one, FamilyTreeDNA, provides X-matching. You can obtain X-matching results by uploading your DNA file to FamilyTreeDNA. I’ve provided upload/download instructions for all companies, here.

X-DNA has a very unique inheritance pattern because males only inherit an X chromosome from their mother which limits the number of potential common ancestors for any two testers. In other words, X-DNA matching does half your work for you!

Clustering Technology – AutoClusters, the Matrix and DNAPainter

In the past few years, match clustering has become a very useful tool. Clustering shows which of your matches match you and each other.

Genetic Affairs offers several flavors of these clusters, and both MyHeritage and GEDmatch have incorporated Genetic Affairs clusters into their product offerings.

If you haven’t used AutoClusters yet, by all means, try them out.

FamilyTreeDNA offers the Matrix, a slightly different version of clustering. You can select 10 people from your match list to see if they also match each other. Shared matches don’t automatically mean triangulation between you and those two people, or even that all three people descend from the same line. However, if the people are bucketed to your same side (parent) and they share common segments with you in the chromosome browser, they triangulate.

You’ll want to paint those matches to DNAPainter to determine which ancestor you share, especially if they haven’t provided a tree.

DNAPainter provides your chromosomes as the “canvas” upon which to paint your matches in order to correlate segments with ancestors and identify common ancestral lines with mystery matches.

Three vendors, FamilyTreeDNA, MyHeritage, and GEDmatch provide segment information with matches for you to paint. I illustrate how I walk segments back in time, identifying our most distant common ancestor possible.

Theories of Family Relativity and ThruLines

Both MyHeritage and Ancestry provide a combination of DNA matching and tree triangulation, where they search the trees of your DNA matches to find common ancestors with you – although their implementation is different.

MyHeritage’s Theories of Family Relativity provides varying theories about common ancestors for you and a specific match using both trees and historical documents. You can review the various pathways and confirm or reject theories. I love this tool.

Ancestry’s Thrulines functions a bit differently, showing you all of your matches that descend from a common ancestor in all your matches’ trees. Sometimes, the trees are incorrect, but Theories of Family Relativity and ThruLines should still be used as hints.

I showed how ThruLines helped me discover what happened to one of my ancestor’s grandchildren who was lost to the family at his mother’s death – and to all of us since. Not anymore.

Bonus – Y-DNA and Mitochondrial DNA at FamilyTreeDNA

Only FamilyTreeDNA offers both Y-DNA and Mitochondrial DNA testing and matching. All of the tools above pertain to autosomal DNA testing, which is named Family Finder at FamilyTreeDNA. Illustrated by the green arrow below, autosomal DNA testing measures and compares the DNA you inherited from each ancestral line, but that’s not the only game in town.

Y-DNA, in blue, for males, tracks the direct paternal line, which is the surname line in Western cultures. Mitochondrial DNA, in red, is passed from mothers to all of their children. Therefore, everyone can test, revealing matches and information about their mother’s direct matrilineal lineage.

Y-DNA testing includes the amazing Discover tool with a baker’s dozen different reports, including ancient DNA. Mitochondrial DNA will soon have its own MitoDiscover after the rollout of the new Mitotree.

Both tests include “Matches Maps” to help you determine how you are related to your matches, as well as where your ancestors came from before the advent of surnames.

The Advanced Matching feature allows you to select multiple tests to see if your matches match you on combined types of tests.

Tune In

Now that you know what we cover in the webinar, please tune in to see how to use these awesome tools. Be sure to fish in all four “ponds” plus GEDmatch, where you may find people who didn’t test at a company that provides a chromosome browser or matching segment information.

Tools provided by the DNA testing vendors facilitate multiple ways to determine how we match and which ancestor(s) we have in common.

You can watch the webinar, here.

Additionally, subscribers to Legacy Family Tree Webinars have access to the 25-page syllabus with even more information!

A Legacy Family Tree Webinar subscription normally costs $49.95 per year, but through the end of September, there’s a coupon code good for 20% off. Just click here, then enter webtember24 at the checkout.

Enjoy!

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DNA Academy Webinar Series Released

Great news! Legacy Family Tree Webinars has just released DNA Academy.

DNA Academy is a three-part series designed to introduce the basics of DNA for genetic genealogy and how Y-DNA, X-DNA, mitochondrial and autosomal DNA can be utilized. Each of these different types of DNA serves a different function for genealogists – and reveals different matches and hints for genealogy.

  1. DNA Academy Part 1 introduces genetic genealogy basics, then, Ancestry’s DNA tools – including their new pricing structure for DNA features. Click here to view.
  2. DNA Academy Part 2 covers FamilyTreeDNA’s products. Click here to view the webinar, which includes:
    1. Y-DNA for males which tracks the direct paternal line
    2. Mitochondrial DNA for everyone which tracks your direct maternal line – your mother’s mother’s mother’s lineage
    3. Autosomal DNA which includes matches from all of your ancestral lines and along with X-DNA matching, which has a very distinctive inheritance path.
  3. DNA Academy Part 3 includes MyHeritage, 23andMe, and third-party tools such as DNAPainter and Genetic Affairs. Click here to view.

Legacy Family Tree Webinars has graciously made Part 2, the FamilyTreeDNA class, free through August 22nd for everyone – so be sure to watch now.

After August 22nd, Part 2 will join Part 1 and Part 3 in the webinar library for subscribers with more than 2240 webinars for $49.95 per year.

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The Big Y-700 Test Marries Science to Genealogy

Recently, one of my long-time friends and project co-administrators asked me a simple question.

  • What do the FamilyTreeDNA Big Y-700 test and the Time Tree tell us when we have genealogy trees provided by testers?
  • What does the Discover Time Tree tell us that’s different, and how do we reconcile the Time Tree and genealogy?

Those are great questions.

Sometimes, I get so buried in the details of genetic genealogy that I neglect the obvious, so I’m writing this article for my co-admin and anyone else with the same questions.

Time Tree Versus Genealogy Question

Of course, as a genealogist, my first answer would be that we always need to be cautious about user-provided trees. Even when the genealogy is accurate, that’s no guarantee there wasn’t a biological disruption that caused the genetic line not to be the same as the surname line.

Almost every lineage has examples of people whose genealogy was “off” or misattributed paternity occurred someplace upstream, meaning that someone carries the surname but does not descend from that biological lineage.

However, relative to DNA projects, the Big Y-700 tests provide one very important feature that STR testing does not and cannot do.

The Big Y-700 test creates a genetic tree, in conjunction with other testers, which provides scientifically calculated dates when branches of the genetic tree were formed.

The genetic tree should align, at least closely, with testers’ genealogical trees.

In other words, if their genealogy is accurate, testers “should” fit in (or at least near) the appropriate places on the branches of the genetic tree.

Furthermore, for people trying to sort out their actual branch in the tree, the Big Y-700 test is MUCH MORE reliable than the earlier STR (short tandem repeat) tests that are prone to random and back mutations. At one time, STR tests were all that was available, but now,  SNPs have been added to our arsenal. SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms) are extremely stable and reliable mutations.

I’m getting ready to record a new Y-DNA webinar, and I’m giving you a sneak peek of a couple of my slides here. I’ll publish an announcement when the webinar is available.

STRs Versus SNPs

Historic Y-DNA testing tested only a limited number of STR locations. That test reported the number of repeats at a specific genetic location on the Y chromosome. Today, the 37, 67, and 111 marker STR tests are still available to purchase.

What are the major differences between the two types of tests, and why would someone purchase one over the other?

If you purchase one of the STR tests, you purchase testing at a specific number of locations, such as 37, 67, and 111. The Big Y-700 test includes at least 700 STR locations, but the specificity of the Big Y-700 SNP testing replaces most of the STR test results in terms of lineage definition.

SNP mutations, when discovered in more than one man in a particular haplogroup lineage, are then named as haplogroups. That mutation is then found in each directly descended male in that line.

STR – 37, 67, 111 Big Y-700 (STRs & SNPs)
Tests A limited number of repeat STR markers – Big Y guarantees 700+ NGS scan targets ~ 25 million locations
Focus Comparatively short genealogy timeframe All-inclusive – recent genealogy plus older to ancient
Includes Can upgrade to Big Y-700 Includes STR tests, separate matching, Globetrekker, Discover, and more
Tree Genealogy, customer provided Genetic Tree – Group Time Tree coordinates with genealogy if provided
Tools STR tools STR tools plus SNP tools & robust Discover
Haplogroup Estimated based on STR values Confirmed to the most granular level possible – evergreen
Useful When Exclusion testing, less costly, entry-level Discover provides lineage, ancient DNA, TMRCA, and more
Matching STRs only STR plus Big Y – both can be useful
Trees Customer provided genealogy Time Tree, Group Time Tree, Block Tree, Classic Tree + 1 more soon

Put simply, the STR tests are now entry-level. Once you see what the Big Y-700 provides, you’ll absolutely want to upgrade to that test. Most of the time, if I know I’m testing someone from the correct line, I just purchase the Big Y-700 out the gate. If I’m not sure I’m testing the correct lineage, I’ll purchase the STR test first to make sure they match the correct lineage before upgrading to the Big Y-700.

Discover

The Discover tool was introduced to provide additional information to Big Y testers and others seeking haplogroup information. STR results can only predict a relatively high-level haplogroup, usually a few thousand years ago, while the Big Y-700 provides testers with an extremely granular haplogroup – usually decades to a few hundred years ago. Often, living men that span 2 or 3 descendant generations (grandfather, father, sons) discover that they have their own haplogroup branch on the tree of mankind!

However, if no one else from your line has tested in hundreds of years, Discover can only work with available information.

Let’s take a quick look at the Estes Group Time Tree.

Estes Project Group Time Trees

Group projects have Group Time Trees. You can view the Estes surname project, here. You can find a project for any surname by either googling “<surname> DNA Project” or scrolling to the VERY bottom of the FamilyTreeDNA main page.

If you’re signed into FamilyTreeDNA, you can also find projects in the top banner.

Once you’re on the project page, you’ll see an option for DNA Results (assuming the administrators have not made the project entirely private.)

Click on the DNA Results link and select Y-DNA.

Next, you’ll see “Group Time Tree.”

Group Time Tree Display

What appears next depends on how the project administrators have grouped the project participants.

I’ve grouped the Estes project by genealogical line, with the exception of a couple of people who carry the Estes surname but have experienced an adoption or other unknown parental event in their Estes lineage.

In some cases, there are simply two same-name lineages that were never from the same biological line. Unfortunately, occasionally they settle in the same place, making the genealogy difficult. Even worse, until Y-DNA testing came along, there was often no way to know they were two different families.

This situation is actually where the Big Y-700 test shines.

 

The Group Time Tree shows the genetic tree scientifically constructed from the SNP results of the Big Y-test results of the testers, at left. At right you’ll see the surnames of the testers along with their Earliest Known Ancestor (EKA) if they have entered that information.

Initially, you don’t even realize you’re actually looking at two types of information merged together. This display allows testers to see the genetic branching tree structure, at left, which is reflective of their actual genealogy, at right.

You can see that the birth year of Sylvester Estes, entered by a tester with haplogroup R-BY482, is 1622. Please note, there’s a typo. Sylvester was born in 1522, NOT 1622. This is a perfect example of what I meant by tree information sometimes being inaccurate and it’s very important when trying to correlate the genetic tree and the user-provided genealogy.

We discovered that R-BY482 (red profile above, at left) is an Estes “signature” haplogroup for the Estes line originating in Deal, England, with three other haplogroups that formed in descendant generations. We know this because every descendant from this line has this mutation.

R-BY490 was formed between Sylvester’s son Robert Estes, born about 1555, and his son, born about 1600, also named Sylvester. We know this because all of the descendants of Sylvester (born circa 1600) carry this mutation, but Robert’s son, Robert, born in 1603, does not.

The genealogy portion of the Group Time Tree, above, doesn’t reveal that information because testers either don’t know their genealogy that far back or perhaps listed an earlier known ancestor, such as Nicholas, born in 1495.

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I created a spreadsheet tracking the Big Y-700 testers of the descendants of Nicholas Estes, along with their descendant haplogroups.

We know that Robert, born in 1555, carries R-BY490 because both of his sons, Abraham and Richard, inherited that mutation, seen with green arrows.

However, this calls into question the associated genealogy because if Robert, born in 1603, descended from Robert, born in 1555, he too would have the mutation R-BY490 since Robert’s other two sons do. Note that the user-provided birth year typo of 1622 which should be 1522 is a century off – enough to be within the genetic band haplogroup birth band – but impossible for the genealogy table.

There is one other possibility: kit 166011, the descendant of Robert born in 1603, could have taken the earlier Big Y-500 test and never upgraded to the more powerful Big Y-700. That’s too much detail for this article, but the discrepancy between the genetic tree and the genealogy tree alerts us that additional research is warranted. The genealogy submitted for tester 166011 confirms that, indeed, 1622 is a typo.

There are no other descendants of known sons of Nicholas or Sylvester born in 1522 to test, but perhaps another will surface one day.

You can see that the more testers in any particular line, the more granularity we can achieve.

The Genetic Tree

How close is the genetic tree to the genealogical tree that has been confirmed?

We know that Sylvester was born in 1522, and his father Nicholas in about 1496. The scientifically calculated creation date of R-BY482 is 1493, just 3 years before the birth of Nicholas. Based on this, there’s a good chance that this mutation occurred between Nicholas’s unknown father and him, or perhaps between Nicholas and Sylvester.

You can view the scientific details of any haplogroup in Discover.

Discover’s BY-482 scientific details page shows its creation date range.

Marriage

You can see that the scientifically created tree and the genealogy information are both important.

In fact, the combination of both allowed us to identify the correct branch of a Wilbur man who matches Estes men but doesn’t know where he fits in the tree.

His haplogroup placed him definitively on the more recent R-BY154784 branch, and his autosomal results then confirmed his specific path of descent because he matches descendants of three generations of Estes men’s wives, showing that his branch descends from Joseph Estes and his wife Ritty Lee, through son Chism, on down to our tester. In this case, autosomal DNA results provided a boost-assist to the genealogy, which helped identify the generation that the Y-DNA haplogroup R-BY154784 actually formed.

This also informs us that Joseph Estes, born in 1780, carried haplogroup R-BY154784 because both of his sons have it. If Joseph hadn’t had that mutation, then both of his sons couldn’t have inherited it.

Therefore, the mutation that formed haplogroup R-BY154784 had to occur between Moses, born in 1711, and John, born in 1732. We know that because Moses’s other son’s descendants do not have that haplogroup.

The more descendants of any ancestor that test, the more specific and accurate the descendant haplogroup formation dates will be.

The marriage of genetic trees and genealogy is powerful indeed.

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Genealogy Proof Series: Extracting and Recording Data So That You Can Find It

This is the second article in the series, Genealogy Proof Series. The first article is:

The first article discussed finding location resources for where your ancestor may have lived. Of course, once you find those resources, you’ll want to start searching for your ancestor, your ancestral surname and recording the information.

So let me stress one thing now. You’re not searching for your ancestor specifically. You’re searching for everyone with that surname because they all have a role in his or her story.

Information

Genealogy research and proving someone is actually your ancestor is all about data. Pieces of data linked together provide information. Information identifies your ancestors and their family members.

How many of you know you once found something but can’t find it now and have no idea where you put it?

What? You too???

This article is about how to search those resources once you find them, who to record, and how so that you’ll be able to analyze the resulting information.

Elizabeth Shown Mills introduced the concept of the FAN Club in 1987, which she documents in her book Evidence Explained – Friends and Neighbors. People found with or near various groups of people will help sort out who is whom, especially in the case of same-named men.

In order to evaluate who is found with various families in a specific location, you need to methodically organize your data as you transcribe it.

Extracting and Recording Your Data

After you have compiled a list of what’s available for your specific counties, you need to extract and transcribe records into a spreadsheet. If you don’t like spreadsheets, you can do the same thing in a table. But it’s critical that you do it someplace.

You’ll also index the information as you go so you can reasonably retrieve it. This is why I utilize spreadsheets – they are made for filtering and sorting.

I’m also going to touch on using AI to help with transcriptions. If you just cringed, please don’t. This is easy, I promise.

Before I share the first screenshot of my spreadsheet, I want to set the stage a bit.

I started this particular spreadsheet 25-30 years ago. There were no guidelines for spreadsheets or for organizing genealogical data. So, I’m going to share the mistakes I made and, with the benefit of hindsight, what I wish I had done differently.

Here are the first four entries (rows) in my Halifax County, VA spreadsheet where I was extracting and recording entries for multiple primary surnames.

  • Estes
  • Younger
  • Combs
  • Rice
  • Moore

In some cases, I had rumors about how these people connected. In other cases, something written decades before with no sources. And in yet other cases, I was the first researcher to plow that ground so I had no idea of who I was looking for. I needed to verify that my ancestor was actually from there before I could figure out who their parents were.

Of course, this means that over the years, I discovered that I needed to research additional surnames that I didn’t initially look for.

Following the Path

My first foray into Halifax County was via an obtuse reference from Claiborne County, Tennessee to my ancestor, John R. Estes, being from Fairfax County, Virginia, not Halifax County.

Thank goodness for this reference, even if it was inaccurate. A local lawyer. P. G. Fulkerson (1840-1929) practiced in Claiborne County. He recorded his remembrances about roughly 300 early families and more than 4,000 people. Beginning in 1979, they were published in a series of “Early Settler” columns in the local newspaper and later indexed. I have many of the newspaper clippings themselves.

What did Mr. Fulkerson say about John R. Estes?

I’m going to scan the article and let AI transcribe it. It’s super easy!

Scan and Transcribe

I scanned this page on my flatbed scanner. Today, I could also take a photo with my phone or a screenshot on a computer.

After scanning the page, I cropped the rightmost column but left the rest to preserve the date.

As an experiment, I scanned the page a second time using my scanner’s OCR (Optical Character Recognition) function, but the results were rather poor. The formatting was off, and lots of words couldn’t be read, as you can see below.

Fixing this would have required as much work as transcribing John Estes’s portion in the first place.

ChatGPT 4o

I took the original article scan and submitted it to ChatGPT

Here’s the entire interaction. I pasted the image and requested a transcription. About 15 seconds later, ChatGPT complied.

The output was text, just like you see above, so I could just copy and paste. Chat GPT was intelligent enough to format correctly and logically fill in the gaps that the scanner OCR hadn’t been able to read.

You can see that this is MUCH better. More importantly, it’s accurately transcribed and easy to confirm. No additional work is needed. I simply deleted the additional text that I didn’t need.

AI is just that easy. You can also use ChatGPT to create a spreadsheet showing the relationships and interactions of the people in the text.

Here’s my request to ChatGPT with the text I want it to process.

There’s a LOT you can do with AI very easily, but for now, let’s move on and work with our extracted information.

Keep AI in mind, though, because you might eventually want to submit everything about a surname to ChatGPT and ask for some type of summary. Always validate the results.

Original Information

Is the original information in the Fulkerson article fully accurate? No, but it gave me something to start with – which was one heck of a lot better than the nothing I had before.

Actually, there’s a LOT of information here:

  • John’s name, including his middle initial. (The middle initial turned out to be important because there were multiple John Esteses in Halifax County, VA.)
  • John’s original location of Fairfax County (Inaccurate, but it was in Virginia. Remember, Fulkerson’s handwritten notes have twice been transcribed. Once typed and then once for publication.)
  • John’s wife’s name – Nancy Moore. (Accurate, except she was called Nancy, Ann, and Nancy Ann Moore in various locations and records.)
  • They married before arriving in Claiborne County. (accurate)
  • When they arrived – prior to 1800. (Inaccurate – it was closer to 1820. He fought in the War of 1812 out of Halifax County.)
  • Location in Claiborne County – Little Sycamore Creek. (accurate)
  • Children’s names (All children are accounted for except the two who died as children before Fulkerson was born.)
  • Children’s spouses’ names. (Two were misspelled, Cloud is Clouse, Rudledge is Rutledge. George married Ollie Pittman, not a Willis. Lucy’s husband was Coleman Rush.)
  • John’s son’s middle initial – John Y. Estes. (That turned out to be important because John R. Estes’s mother’s birth surname was Younger.)
  • Where the children moved to. (Some locations were simply wrong. Others might have been stops on the way to a different location. My ancestor, John Y. Estes, wound up in Texas and never lived in Kentucky, so this error sent me on a wild goose chase.)
  • John’s age of 105 when he died. (He did live to be quite old, about 98 – and his advanced age was certainly part of his legacy.)

Where do I go from here? I didn’t know it at first, but Fairfax County was wrong. I searched but couldn’t find anything there, so I widened my net.

The First Breakthrough

I did a LOT of searching before I eventually found a reference to a marriage record for John R. Estes and Ann Moore in Halifax, not Fairfax County, Virginia. I was suspicious because Nancy is not Ann, but those names are often used synonymously for each other. After I found that record, I still needed to prove it was my John Estes and Nancy Moore.

Today, finding a marriage record is generally much easier because many records are available online by surname, through genealogy sites, such as FamilySearch and others, and by location. Online records were not available at that time.

Back then, I was relegated to library visits, courthouses, and microfilm or microfiche that the LDS church would order into their local Family History Center for me.

Once I located a reference to that marriage record in Halifax County, VA, I knew that I needed to visit the courthouse there. I wanted a copy of the original, plus I needed more information which would only be found in that courthouse. Thank goodness it hadn’t burned.

It might seem like that marriage record was an answer, but really, it was just the starting point for a very long line of questions.

Halifax County, VA Courthouse

Once in Halifax County, I spent two weeks, opening to closing, in the dusty damp basement of this courthouse where I was in Seventh Heaven. Occasionally one of the staff would come to check on me to be sure I was still alive!

There weren’t cell phones or digital cameras, so I took notes on pad after pad after pad of legal paper. I had to get everything that even MIGHT be useful while I was there, because the drive was about 700 miles through treacherous mountains, one way.

It was treacherous on those backroads, but it was also stunningly beautiful, and I never fell out of love with my ancestral connection to this place.

I would transcribe and analyze those handwritten notes later, after I got home. I wasn’t going to waste valuable research time in Halifax County going over the information I had retrieved.

Needless to say, I had to devise a methodology to organize that information. I also made discoveries, some of which necessitated additional trips. However, it was information from those initial forays that provided hints and research fodder.

Important Information

On that first trip, I didn’t realize that additional people were important in documents. I didn’t know which of the many people with the surname of Estes and even more with the surname of Moore were my family – if any.

I didn’t know what was important and what was not, so I began recording everything.

For example, let’s look at the fourth item in my spreadsheet.

  • The item number is my serially assigned number, not to be confused with a spreadsheet row assigned by Excel, which is shown at far left.
  • The source is the book or resource where I found the information. You’ll notice immediately that I did NOT record the page number, and I should have. My bad – but I know now.
  • The year and date, of course.
  • The last and first name of the person in the text, in separate columns to facilitate sorting.
  • Their role in the document – defendant, plaintiff, lawyer, etc.
  • Places, which include roads, waterways, proximity to landmarks, etc. In later spreadsheets, I added a separate column for watercourses.
  • Today, I would also add a column for a link to where I found the info online.
  • I transcribed the full text of the entry and added a separate row, as you can see to the left, for each person in the entry. You can only see 5 here, but all 7 people found in the text have the exact same entry in the spreadsheet, except for their role and their name, of course.

I wish I had a single entry for which surnames I’ve actually searched a document for, the date and how, meaning in person or a book, or what. Let’s say I actively transcribed all of the Estes and Moore items from the index. I happened to find several Combs individuals in those records, but I didn’t search specifically for Combs. I wish I had made note of that because otherwise, I’m missing actual Combs entries.

If you’re thinking to yourself that this process is extremely labor intensive, perhaps obsessive and you won’t need a lot of it eventually – you might well be right. However, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU DON’T NEED UNTIL LATER. So you also don’t know what you’re missing and I guarantee you, the ONE THING you will need will be in what you don’t have.

Because I did a poor job of documenting what I covered during my first visit, including books where I didn’t find anything, I had to review them again – and sometimes, I found things I had missed or ignored the first time, thinking they weren’t relevant.

If you don’t enter everything, you won’t be able to:

  • Sort to see how many times you find a particular person associated with your family members.
  • Sort for everyone in a particular location, like Birches Creek.
  • Sort for people on Roanoke Road.
  • Sort for someone who witnessed a deed to see what other transactions and interactions they had with people in your spreadsheet, which is really a form of database.

If you don’t enter everything, you’ll be missing a lot of important information.

Secondary Spreadsheets

Sometimes, I create secondary spreadsheets. I find these useful for records such as census, personal tax, and land tax records.

Using those records, I was able to track groups of people, with their locations, correlated with deeds, across time from 1750 through 1817.

The bond for the marriage between John Estes and Ann Moore was provided by John R. Estes and William Moore who would have been a close relative of the bride. The name of William Moore provided me with a “direction” in which to look, which is exactly why I transcribed every document type I could find in that courthouse. On the tax lists, I found two distinct groups of Moore men. William Moore was grouped with a different group of men than the Dan River group of Joseph, John, and Alexander Moore.

Using documents across multiple years, it was easy to group these people together. I quickly discovered that John, Alexander, and Joseph Moore lived on the Dan River, near South Boston, while the William Moore and James Moore group lived on the west side of the county on the second fork of Birches Creek, about 15 miles away from the Dan River group.

Eventually, years later, Y-DNA would confirm that these two groups were not paternally related.

Clearly, this land and tax information won’t fit on the columns of the original Halifax Spreadsheet, so this information is stored on a separate tab titled “Land Tax Summary,” shown above.

I have yet another tab titled “Census.” I do enter placeholders for the appropriate person and year into the original spreadsheet pointing me to the Land/Tax and Census tabs.

As I continued with my research, I was extremely grateful that I had recorded everything, because, as luck would have it, the signatures, marks of those who couldn’t sign, neighbors, and locations were critical to finding my way back to Prince Edward, then Amelia County where this Moore family had come from before settling in Halifax County.

Eventually, it would be revealed that Edward Henderson, a witness to the deed above, was the uncle of Nancy Ann Moore. Nancy’s son, John Y. Estes, would marry a Dodson female. Yes, the Dodsons who migrated to Claiborne and Hawkins County lived down the road from the Birches Creek Moore family in Halifax County. Charles Spradling lived with James Moore at one point and is somehow related, but we still don’t know exactly how.

Can you see how valuable these records that include people we don’t know turn out to be?

When I finished transcribing these records, there were 173 entries for the surname Henderson. Many of these records documented relationships with other people, proximity to land, and inheritance. These, along with other transactions, connected many dots.

If you’re thinking I’ve strayed far from John R. Estes, I really haven’t. These families were all allied in some way. John’s father and grandfather were involved with Nancy Ann Moore’s family. I suspect they attended the same church. William Moore was a minister, and John’s mother’s Younger family and his grandmother’s Combs family lived nearby and probably attended the church that William Moore pastored.

Follow the Path

My Estes ancestral path led to the Combs and Younger families and from Halifax County to King and Queen County and Amelia County, Virginia. The Moores led to the Rice family and to Prince Edward, Amelia, and New Kent Counties.

I did not create a new spreadsheet for those counties. I simply continued to add to the same spreadsheet because often, the same allied families are found in those earlier locations, too.

That FAN network is VERY powerful. Almost no one went to the next frontier alone. You needed other people for survival – and you married who you saw.

In Summary

Most of us aren’t fortunate enough to find the dots already connected. Even if someone else has connected them, especially in today’s copy/paste tree-grafting world, you’ll want to check their sources and records, check the transcriptions, and do your own proof work. We will talk about the Genealogical Proof Standard in this series.

You will find the answers to your brick walls hiding in the groups of family, friends, and neighbors. Recording everything not only provides you with valuable information, now and in the future, it also keeps you from replowing the same field. You won’t have to wonder if you’ve already looked at a particular resource or if you extracted a specific surname.

Now that you know how to extract, transcribe, and record relevant records, you can begin to sift through those location records from our last article.

Our next article will be about surname searching.

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Martin Aucoin (1595-after 1633), Carpenter, Survived the Siege of La Rochelle – 52 Ancestors #425

Martin Aucoin lived in a time of great upheaval in France. Somehow, he survived a religious war, or more precisely stated, wars. He may or may not have made the trip from France to Acadia, today’s Nova Scotia. Whether he died in France, arrived in Acadia, or died trying, he was one of the founding fathers through his two daughters, Michelle and Jeanne Aucoin.

Laleu

Par Patrick Despoix — Travail personnel, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=32678016

Martin Aucoin was baptized on August 26, 1595, at Saint-Pierre de Laleu, a church that now lies in ruins.

Par Remi Jouan — Photo taken by Remi Jouan, CC BY 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8657028

The priest scribed the record of his baptism for posterity. We would find it more than 400 years later.

Martin Aucoin’s 1595 baptism is recorded in Latin, found in La Charente Maritime archives, here.

I don’t read Latin, and certainly not Latin written in 16th-century French script. ChatGPT 4.0 came to my rescue, though.

Transcription:

Die 26 aprilis Anno Domini 1595 Martinus Aucoin filius Martini Aucoin et Barbelleae parochiam Dieslis in Xra fuit sacro sancto baptizatus receptus ab aquae et spiritu sancto abbas mae Joannes Godardus capellaniae S. Johannis in hunc anima

Translation:

On the 26th day of April in the Year of Our Lord 1595 Martin Aucoin, son of Martin Aucoin and Barbelle of the parish of Dieslis in Christ was received into holy baptism by water and the Holy Spirit by Father Joannes Godardus, chaplain of St. John’s in this parish.

Others have interpreted his first name to have been Martinus, the Latin form of Martin, and the surname to have been written as Aucoing. His mother’s name has been interpreted as Suzanne Barboteau.

Unfortunately, the first remaining parish records from this church begin in 1593, although the church itself was much older. It was built in the 12th century, partially rebuilt in the 15th century, half ruined at the end of the 16th century, and restored in 1592 – hence the reason why there weren’t earlier records. The bell tower was restored in the 17th century.

Given the church’s ruined state before 1593, the Aucoin family would have attended services and had their religious needs attended to in another nearby community before this church’s restoration. This strongly suggests that Martin’s family lived in or very near Laleu.

Cousin Mark, who provided this information, also discovered that Lalau is shown on the siege map of La Rochelle from 1627-1628 in Guy Perron’s wonderful blog.

Laleu is shown on the map of the siege to the left. Today, Laleu is part of La Rochelle, although sadly, we were not able to visit the ruins during our recent trip.

The tower and some walls remain, along with the cemetery.

Today’s streets are probably just paved versions of the old cobblestone pathways for donkeys and carts that drew fruits and vegetables to market and supplies back home again when Martin’s family lived there.

Walking along the Rue Notre Dame, the “street” adjacent to the church appears to be an alley, but it’s not.

You can see the centuries of history carved into the mortar and stones of the old buildings, still in use today. Calling this a one lane street is being generous. Note the very small car in the distance.

Some of the little “streets’, like the Rue de Rambouillet, are only large enough for a person.

In even earlier history, before the 1100s, soldiers from the Gallo-Roman empire established ports on the peninsula where Laleu and La Rochelle are found and harvested salt from the salt marshes.

That history was probably forgotten by the time Martin’s parents took their infant child to be baptized, likely the day of or the day after his birth, as was the custom.

I can see Martin’s parents standing inside the church, facing the chancery, as baby Martin was anointed with Holy Water and baptized by the priest – the words of the ritual spoken in Latin, of course.

I wonder if his parents understood Latin. They had surely witnessed hundreds of baptisms.

The ghost of the pillars that would have supported the gabled archways soaring overhead.

The baptismal font was probably towards the front of the church, perhaps near the altar or maybe in one of the side chapels.

Beautiful stained glass windows would have graced the openings, radiating their colorful rays across the church and perhaps baby Martin as well, a blessing message from the sun.

Today, only one side of the church partially remains, along with the rear wall that appears to be stabilized by the bell tower.

Martin and his parents would probably have entered through the door, on the side near the bell tower today.

The small door at the rear of the church would have been where the caskets were carried out of the church for burial in the cemetery outside.

Looking at the left side and rear of the cemetery, we see small buildings that I thought were ossuaries, where the bones in old graves are removed and stored so the graves can be reused. While the practice is foreign to those of us in the US, it’s the tradition in most of Europe, where land is very scarce. Upon further research, it appears that these are not ossuaries but apparently a type of mausoleum or grave house.

That doesn’t mean there wasn’t an ossuary, just that I don’t see one today. Of course, the burials remaining today are contemporary, some reaching back into the 1800s but more from a later date – certainly long after the church was restored the last time. Martin’s parents may repose here, but if so, we don’t know where. Clearly, the early graves are gone, given that this cemetery has been in use for at least 800 years, since the 1200s.

Generations of Martin’s family members may have watered this soil with their DNA and would have lived within a block or so of the church.

The Neighborhood

Directly across the street from the church at 4 Rue de L’Eglise, this ancient building and its walls remain. It appears to be from the time when the church stood, and I can’t help but wonder what it was? Did Martin walk past here? He surely did.

Everyone did because it was across from the church. In a small village, everyone walked past everyone’s house and knew their business, too. Most of the people were probably related.

What was this building? Could Martin’s family have possibly lived here?

It’s labeled as Foucaud Dominique on the map, and further investigation suggests it is or was an osteopath’s office.

The ancient walls surround and are incorporated into the homes and lives of the Laleu residents today, some of which might be descendants of Martin Aucoin and Suzanne Barboteau.

Possible Siblings

French Acadian researcher Jacques Nerrou recorded the following:

The Aucoin family was in La Rochelle in 1570 at the time that Martin (1) AUCOIN was born. He was a locksmith by profession in Cougne parish. He then went to St. Eloy.

During this time period, there seems to have been only one AUCOIN family living in La Rochelle. He married Suzanne BARBOTEAU in 1592. Records found give us the various spellings of this family name: Aucoing, Ancoing, Auconnois, Oguin, Angevin, this last derivation could come from a more ancient form of the name that would have originated in the Angers region.

Birth records were found for four children belonging to this couple:

    • Sebastien, baptized 27/09/1593 at St Pierre Laleu (La Rochelle) as his father, he became a locksmith.
    • Martin (2), baptized 26/04/1595 at St Pierre Laleu (La Rochelle)
    • Francois, Baptized 9/11/1599 at Cougnes
    • Daniel, baptized 17/06/1604 at Cougnes.

Another marriage is reported for Martin Aucoin, the father, to Catherine Hilarin on July 10, 1606 in La Rochelle. If this is accurate, and it’s the same Martin Aucoin, that tells us that Suzanne Barboteau has died

Please note that I have NOT confirmed or verified any of the above information. I have not been able to use the French archives search feature for parish records successfully.

It’s also worth mentioning that there have been heated discussions about the surname and whether Angevin or Langevin is the same as Aucoin or if they are two unrelated families.

If baptism records are available for Aucoin family members, by any spelling, as indicated above, perhaps death records are too. It’s also possible that the witnesses for the various baptisms above can be associated with the records known to belong to our Martin Aucoin found in La Rochelle. That would serve as indirect evidence connecting the dots between these people.

If you have these records, additional information, or can figure out how to use the archives search features, please contact me.

Martin’s Life

Assuming that Martin Aucoin and Suzanne Barboteau are our Martin Aucoin’s parents, we know little more and nothing concrete. The first positive ID of our Martin is in La Rochelle in 1630, just a couple of years after the siege ended.

We can’t say positively that the Martin Aucoin baptized in Laleu in 1595, just 103 years after Columbus “discovered” America, is the same Martin Aucoin that was later found in La Rochelle, but Aucoin is an extremely rare surname, and Martin is not a common first name either. It’s certainly possible that if, indeed, Sebastian, Francois, and Daniel are the brothers of our Martin Aucoin, they named one of their sons Martin after their brother. It’s somewhat unusual that of the 19 children, 10 of whom were males, born to the younger Martin Aucoin found later in Acadia, born about 1650, none were given any of those three names.

About the time our Martin was reaching adulthood, a religious war would shape this part of France, and in particular, La Rochelle, dramatically.

The Edict of Nantes, signed in 1598 by King Kenry IV, granted the minority Protestants called Huguenots rights within the Catholic nation of France. Meant to quell the Wars of Religion in France; two decades later, the results were disappointing for France as a whole and catastrophic for some, especially in La Rochelle.

Catholics and Protestants

This map of La Rochelle was drawn in 1597 when our Martin Aucoin was just a toddler, in a more innocent time before the religious wars would take their toll during the following three decades.

It’s easy to see the city’s walls, the hospital, St. Bartellemy church, and possibly a small adjacent churchyard that equates to a cemetery, but I can’t tell for sure. There are at least four more churches scattered in different parishes, two of which can easily be identified here. At that time, the churches were shared between Catholics and Protestants, which was probably the only thing that saved them.

Several towers are in evidence, including the ones guarding the city gates. The main gate, by the harbor, still stands today.

The three massive towers guarding the harbor and quay, including the one with a terrifying gibbet cage, protected La Rochelle from attack from the sea and provided shelter for merchant ships offloading their wares in the portion of the harbor inside the city walls.

Coming or going, every ship sailed between those sentry towers.

La Rochelle, strategically located, became the Huguenot center of sea power and a hotbed of Protestant resistance to the Catholic government.

Henry IV of France, baptized Catholic but raised Protestant, balanced the interests of both but was assassinated in 1610 by a Catholic zealot. His son, Louis XIII, was only nine years old when his father died, and his mother, Marie de’ Medici, was named as the regent of France during her son’s minority, with the assistance of the powerful Catholic Cardinal Richelieu who would eventually betray her, as would her son. Marie was removed and exiled in 1617 by her son, who was only 16, causing revolts by regional nobles of both faiths, followed by the outbreak of the Thirty Years War in 1618.

In 1621, Louis XIII reestablished Catholicism in a formerly Huguenot region of Béarn, about 270 miles further south, resulting in an uprising and the escalation of tensions in La Rochelle.

The Huguenots were powerful and in control of La Rochelle, which, of course, was a part of France ruled by the French monarchy. While King Henry IV had been flexible and accommodating, his son, Louis XIII, was much less tolerant. The King had flexed his muscle, and La Rochelle certainly knew they might be next in his sights.

They were right. The blockade of La Rochelle took place in 1621 and 1622 during the King’s repression of the Huguenot rebellion.

Fort Louis was built just outside the La Rochelle city walls, guarding the entrance to the city. The King attempted to blockade La Rochelle by preventing Protestant access to the port by land and sea. As a Catholic carpenter, did Martin Aucoin help build this fort?

Isaac de Razilly with Charles de Menou d’Aulnay, men later associated with the founding and settling of Acadia beginning in 1632, commanded the French blockade fleet. Razilly lost an eye in that endeavor. They worked closely with Cardinal Richelieu.

This initial conflict lengthened into a stalemate, which resulted in the Treaty of Montpelier in October of 1622, ending hostilities, at least for the time being.

The Huguenots retained military installations in only two places, La Rochelle being one.

Neither side was happy with the terms of the agreement; both sides ignored it, and the tension reached a boiling point again by 1625 when the Huguenots occupied, and the French then recaptured Ré Island, off the Atlantic coast opposite the entrance to La Rochelle, illustrated above.

Martin would have witnessed all of this upheaval, knowing worse was coming, probably praying daily for the protection of his young family. He had been married about a decade.

In this painting, you can see the harbor and towers of La Rochelle, with Ré Island across the channel.

Perceiving an opportunity, in June of 1627, the English King Charles I sent a fleet of ships with more than 7,000 men to encourage a Huguenot rebellion at La Rochelle. In August, the English soldiers with 600 horses and 24 cannons surrounded the city. On September 10th, La Rochelle fired shots against the French King’s royal troops at Fort Louis, beginning the next Huguenot rebellion.

La Rochelle was the center of Huguenot resistance, aided by the English. Both sides were determined to be victorious.

For the French, Cardinal Richelieu acted as commander when the King was absent.

Cardinal Richelieu is depicted here at the siege of La Rochelle in both armor and his red cardinal cape and hat, standing on a dike.

La Rochelle can be seen here in 1630, completely surrounded by fortifications and troops. The French built a seawall nearly a mile long to prevent all supplies from arriving in La Rochelle

La Rochelle is shown here ringed by forts, with its harbor blocked by a nearly mile-wide blockade. On the peninsula at right, you can see the small village of LaLeu, outside the blockade perimeter. Based on the area left outside the perimeter, one can assume there wasn’t concern about French or Catholic loyalty in those regions.

Laleu looks small on this map.

Laleu looks much more realistic on this map and you can make out the church’s spires. Still, there are only about 43 houses, plus the church, of course. The church was the center of every village and the life of the villagers.

This bird’s-eye view drawn by Jacques Callot shows the area of La Pallice, near the bottom, and Laleu, a small village above LaPallice, during the siege.

I think this would have been Laleu on the Callot map, but I’m not positive.

The English sent two more fleets to resupply the Huguenots and relieve the residents of La Rochelle but were unsuccessful.

After 14 excruciating months, on October 28, 1628, the Huguenots surrendered the city to the French.

Along with other Huguenots, Jean Guitton, the Protestant mayor of La Rochelle, had vowed to defend La Rochelle to the death. Indeed, they did, but the resulting deaths weren’t their own. Instead, the residents died. Shockingly, the population was reduced from 27,000 to 5,000, but in the surrender painting above, the politicians in charge don’t appear emaciated.

After an unconditional surrender, confessing their sins, and asking the King for forgiveness, they were allowed to return to the fold. At 11 PM, the treaty was signed, and the following day, the emissaries from La Rochelle were brought before the King, who said to them, “I forgive you for your rebellions. If you are good and faithful subjects to me, I will be a good prince to you.” The Huguenots of La Rochelle retained their religious freedom, property, and possessions but not their military defenses.

Two days later, the royal troops entered the city and witnessed an utterly horrific spectacle. Only 5000 residents were left alive, and another 1000 would die within the next three months.

The soldiers handed out 10,000 loaves of bread immediately. The next day, they herded cattle and sheep into the city. More than 3000 carts of supplies were escorted by the soldiers, too, but those carts had a secondary purpose. The priest recorded that “so many corpses piled up without burial in the city.” Those corpses were removed from the streets before the King’s arrival on November 1st. They wanted to spare him the painful spectacle of the devastation the blockade had caused. The King was so moved by seeing “the poor inhabitants,” and that was AFTER the cleanup, that he took pity on them and shed tears. Yes, starvation is horrific. The King was staying at Laleu, which was clearly in much better shape than La Rochelle. Still, it must have been terrible in Laleu, too, knowing that people just a few miles away were literally slowly, agonizingly, starving to death.

Unfortunately, the Catholic church records in La Rochelle end in mid-July 1627 with a final entry in the registers of Sainte-Marguerite church. More than 20,000 deaths later, the next known service was held by Cardinal Richelieu on November 1st, in the same church where “all divine services” took place for “all the churches of La Rochelle.” Records indicate that there had been five churches and cemeteries, one for each of the parishes. Sainte-Marguerite was reconsecrated by Cardinal Richelieu, and six days later, burial records were resumed.

It’s unknown how the bodies were disposed of during the siege or before the King’s visit.

Where Was Martin Aucoin During This Time?

We don’t know where Martin was during this time, but we do know a few things.

The fact that the King stayed in Laleu indicates that the town was considered Catholic, loyal, and safe. It would have been in pretty good shape, all things considered.

Martin could have been there.

The church in Laleu was about two and a half miles or an hour away, on foot, from the center of La Rochelle. Of course, the King wouldn’t have been walking. He would either have been riding a horse or in a horse-drawn chariot, accompanied by both an entourage and many soldiers. Martin was probably watching from someplace and may even have been involved in some fashion.

Martin survived the siege, as did his wife, Barbe Minguett, and eldest daughter, Michelle, who, according to the later Acadian census documents, was born about 1618. Michelle’s age suggests that Martin married sometime between 1615, when he would have been 20, and 1617. In addition to daughter, Michelle, Barbe and Martin had son, Francois, who was born about 1622. They probably had more children as well, given the distance between known children.

We know with almost certainty that Barbe Minguet was the mother to both Michelle Aucoin and Jeanne Aucoin who were founders of Acadia, along with their respective husbands. The mitochondrial DNA of their descendants, inherited directly from their mothers all the way back to Barbe, matches.

If Martin Aucoin and his wife and at least two children were living in La Rochelle at the time of the siege, the chances of all four surviving would be nearly impossible. Only about 1 in 6 or 7 people survived. It’s most likely that Martin and his family were living in Laleu or nearby, someplace outside the walls of La Rochelle, during this time.

Furthermore, as a loyal catholic and carpenter, there would have been opportunity in La Rochelle after the siege was over.

The first child born in La Rochelle to Martin and Barbe was daughter Jeanne Aucoin who was baptized in Sainte-Marguerite’s church on November 26, 1630.

The Grim Reaper and a Second Chance

Unfortunately, while Martin and his wife, Barbe Minguet, escaped the grim reaper during the siege months, Barbe succumbed sometime between November 26, 1630, and January 20, 1632, when Martin married Marie Sallé at Saint-Barthélemy church, just a couple of blocks away from Sainte-Marguerite, but in a different parish.

The church of Saint-Barthélemy no longer exists, but the bell tower does and is getting a makeover. The church proper was located where the building with the white shutters sits today.

We know that several people were present at their wedding. The bride’s parents would have come from the neighboring parish of Cougnes, bringing the bride, of course. I can’t help but wonder why they weren’t married in her home church. In addition, there were several witnesses, many of whom were carpenters and other tradesmen. Some may have been relatives.

Again, ChatGPT translate assisted with the transcription, but couldn’t read everything.

The 20th of January of Saints Fabien and Sebastien were married Martin Aucouin, Carpenter, in this parish with Marie Sallé daughter of Jean Denys Sallé and Francoyse Arnaud of the parish of Cougnes and of the consent and ?é in pr Jean and Nicolas Jaque neau ? Locksmith, Arnaud Gyon carpenter, Pierre Dusaut carpenterr, Jony Bichaud butcher Martin Barraud carpenter and Jony Brossard butcher and Antoine Couisau Masson & more’r others

Fousseaume.

Parish Priest of St. Barthelemy Nicolas Jagueneau Louis D’Loyer Pierre elder Arnaud Gion Johing Broussard Bastien Jagueneau

The signature of Arnaud Gyon, a carpenter, on the marriage certificate of Martin Aucoin with Marie Sallé is the same as that on the baptismal certificate of Jeanne Aucoin, daughter of Martin Aucoin and Barbe Minguet in 1630. This confirms that it is the same Martin Aucoin in both documents, even if there is no mention of widowhood in his marriage certificate with Marie Sallé. Furthermore, we later find Marie Sallé in Acadia, living with Michelle Aucoin’s daughter and son-in-law.

Marie Sallé was born about 1610, so she would have been about 22 when she married Martin. Martin’s daughter, Michelle, was already 14, so Marie was just 8 years older than her stepdaughter, 12 years older than Francois, and about 21 years older than baby Jeanne. With the addition of her new son, Jean, a few months later, Marie bore the responsibility of raising four children.

We know they attended Saint-Barthélemy, so let’s take a look at the tower, the only part of the church left today.

Martin probably attended this church while he lived in this parish in La Rochelle after his daughter, Jeanne was born, but before he married Marie. Otherwise, they would probably have been married in Sainte-Marguerite had he lived in that parish.

The bells of Saint-Barthélemy would have summoned the worshipers.

Just ten days after Martin married Marie Sallé, a child, Nicholas Aucoin, was recorded in the burial records of Saint-Barthélemy. The child’s age is not given, and neither are his parents’ names, but given that we know Martin attended this church and no other Aucoin families are present, it makes sense that Nicholas belongs to Martin Aucoin and Barbe Minguet. I can’t help but wonder if this child was born to Martin and Barbe just before her death. Given Jeanne’s birth in November of 1630, Nicholas could have been born literally days to a few weeks before Martin married Marie Sallé in January of 1632, although that really doesn’t seem quite long enough.

This must have been an incredible blow to Martin. Now, the church bells were tolling for his child.

I wonder where Nicholas was buried. Was he an infant, perhaps the last child born to Barbe before her death, or was he older?

Maps of that time don’t show a cemetery adjacent to this church. Besides, after almost 25,000 deaths in the previous few years, there would have been no space left in the cemeteries anyway.

The priest would have had to consecrate ground someplace else for burials.

Martin would probably have looked out these windows, wondering to God why. Why take his wife and children? Why?

Then, his attention drifted back to what the priest was saying, assuming he understood Latin. Regardless, Martin would have understood the rituals. Blessing the child and praising God for taking the child to His glory and happiness of everlasting life.

The priest probably said the Mass of Angels, begging for consolation for the family. He would have worn white robes, not black, because the child had never sinned, and blessed the coffin before it was taken outside for burial where he would bless it once again.

Martin and Marie’s first child, a son, Jean Aucoin, was baptized inside these walls ten months later, on November 10, 1632. It was a much happier day, and they must have been thrilled!

Sadly, he died seven months later, on June 25th, 1633. The priest would have repeated the same ritual that by this time would have been all-too-familiar. Grief seemed to be the staple diet of La Rochelle.

Martin attended the funeral of his son in this church, again staring out what would then have been stained glass windows as the Priest’s voice droned on. Martin had heard funeral services far too many times. He probably knew them by heart.

Did Martin and Marie have more children? Did they move someplace else, to a parish whose registers no longer exist? Maybe more baptisms are waiting to be found.

Marie was only in her early 20s, so she had another 20 childbearing years ahead of her.

Did Martin have siblings? What happened to them? Where are they?

Where were Martin’s parents buried? Were they trapped in La Rochelle and perished during the siege? What happened?

Are there more records for Aucoin family members in this part of France?

Daybreak

Very early, at daybreak, just as the sun rose one April morning in La Rochelle, I traced Martin’s footsteps. I walked to where his daughter, Jeanne Aucoin, was baptized, and then to Saint-Barthélemy, where Martin remarried after Jeanne’s mother died, where Nicholas was buried, then son Jean was baptized and then buried. All those events in this church occurred between January of 1632 and June of 1633.

The shadowy fragments of Martin’s joy and sorrow both linger here.

When I visited that solitary morning, the church was under repair. I walked as far around the church tower as possible, hoping to find a way inside.

No luck.

Around back, I looked inside the dumpster, which held trash and scrap construction materials.

I saw something in the dumpster.

I took a closer look.

There it was.

Stone.

Stone from the church tower where the trajectory of Martin’s life changed.

Tossed away in the refuse pile, just waiting for me.

Be still my heart.

A gift from his heart to my heart.

Yes, Martin, I am here. I came to find you and share your life, your pain, and joy, your path and footsteps with your other descendants.

You know, don’t you?

From my soul to yours.

Thank you.

It hurt my heart to turn and walk away. Tore at my soul.

I kept looking back, tears streaming down my cheeks, until I reached the corner. I paused one final time, took one last look, drinking in what Martin would have seen, etching it in my mind forever, then turned and walked downhill towards the city gate and the quay.

But Martin knew that I was here, and just as I did, he turned and walked away one last time, too.

Acadia

We don’t know for sure if Martin Aucoin set sail for Acadia or if he died before his family immigrated.

Given that we know Marie and three of Martin’s children sailed for Acadia, now Nova Scotia, the church would have been their last stop, offering prayers for safe passage before they sailed between the towers standing sentry, guarding the opening into the harbor.

They would have gathered a few meager belongings, boarded a ship along the quay, and set sail between those towers.

Martin’s family, and Martin, if he sailed with them, would have turned around until the towers and La Rochelle were only a dot on the horizon, then looked forward to nothing but waves and sea. An uncertain future.

The siege and its aftermath clearly played a critical role in the settlement of Acadia. I can picture the destruction and destitution in the city that prompted many to welcome a chance for a better life in New France.

In 1632, de Razilly and d’Aulnay began encouraging settlement at La Hève, Acadia, now LaHave, Nova Scotia. In 1635, the settlement was moved to Port Royal, on the northern side of the peninsula.

Did Martin sail with the rest of his family through those towers, out the harbor, into the westward sun, headed for Acadia?

Or does he rest someplace in La Rochelle, or maybe at sea?

The Other Martin Aucoin

There’s another Acadian named Martin Aucoin. What happened to our Martin Aucoin, born in 1595, may, in part, be told by the story of the younger Martin Aucoin.

The younger Martin Aucoin is recorded in the 1686 census of Les Mines, Acadia, living in Beaubassin, age 35, which means he was born about 1651. In the 1693 census, he’s shown as age 46, so born about 1650. Importantly, he is NOT shown in the earlier Acadian censuses.

This Martin married Marie Gaudet about 1673, given that their first of 19 children, including a set of twins, was born in 1674.

The younger Martin’s burial was recorded in the Grand-Pré register on May 15, 1711, noted as around the age of 60, born about 1650 or 1651, and living on La Riviere des Canards. Unfortunately, this entry does not reveal his parents.

According to the deposition made in 1767 by this Martin’s grandson, Alexandre Aucoin, Martin came from France. (Doc. inéd., Vol. III, p. 106). Five others, all made by widows or widowers of other grandchildren of Martin Aucoin, include statements to the same effect (ibid., Vol. II, pp. 181, 193; Vol. III, pp. 22, 29, 127-128). All six of these depositions indicate that Martin Aucoin married Marie Gaudet. Only one, that of Claude Pitre (ibid., Vol. III, p. 29), adds the detail that their marriage took place at Port-Royal.

What NONE of these depositions says is that Martin Aucoin (the elder) is the father of the younger Martin Aucoin or that Marie Sallé was his mother. However, neither do the depositions for either Jeanne or Michelle. In fact, the elder Martin Aucoin is not mentioned in any of those depositions at all. In 1767, the French were interested in the most recent ancestor arriving in Acadia who was born in France, not necessarily ALL ancestors born in France.

The descendants of both Michelle and Jeanne Aucoin stated that they were born in France and came to Acadia with their spouses. For Martin the younger, it simply says he came from France. If Martin the elder was his father and Marie Sallé, his mother, they and their other children would not have arrived until after the younger Martin’s birth in 1650/1651 and before 1654, assuming the information about him being born in France is accurate. That’s the only possible window because there was no immigration from France to Acadia during the English occupation from 1654 to 1670.

So, if this Martin was born in France and arrived before 1654, he would have arrived as a child with his parents. There is no suggestion of a second Aucoin family. If he arrived after 1670, he may or may not have arrived with family members. There is no record of any Martin Aucoin in the 1671 census. Beaubassin was not founded until 1671-1672, so he wasn’t there yet.

Martin’s wife, Marie Gaudet, lived in Port Royal with her parents, who were shown there in 1671, 1678, 1693, and 1698. Marie is shown with her parents in 1671, age 14.

Martin would have HAD to have been living in Port Royal in 1673 when he married Marie. The couple likely packed up and went with Jacques Bourgeois to Beaubassin shortly thereafter.

So, here are the four possibilities for the Martin Aucoin born about 1650, in no particular order:

  1. Martin came from France, probably as the son of Martin Aucoin and Marie Sallé, between 1650 and 1654, when immigration stopped. If this is the case, Marie would have been about 41 or 42 years old, so having a child when Martin was born is certainly within the realm of possibility.
  2. Martin came from France between 1650-1654, the child of other parents. This is possible, but there is no trace of those other parents, nor is he found in the 1671 census.
  3. Martin came from France after the 1671 census, and before 1673 when he married Marie Gaudet and is therefore not the son of the older Martin Aucoin. This makes the most sense, especially when combined with a note by Stephen A. White, “Given the lack of dispensation, we do not believe that the husband of Marie Gaudet could be the second son of [Martin Aucoin] the carpenter of La Rochelle, but there still exists the possibility that he is related to the sisters Michelle and Jeanne, to a degree more distant.” Unfortunately, White does not identify which marriages he would have expected to find dispensations for. Knowing which marriages and in which generations would help immensely in eliminating potential upstream common ancestors. For example, could the younger Martin Aucoin have been the nephew or great-nephew of the older Martin Aucoin? For how many generations would a dispensation be required in each scenario?
  4. The last possibility is that the depositions regarding the younger Martin coming from France are incorrect and he was born in Acadia, but his parents came from France. This is possible but adds no evidence either way in terms of whether he is the son of the older Martin Aucoin.

Surely, with the same highly unusual name as the older Martin Aucoin, there had to be some connection. Even today, there are only three locations in France with clusters of the Aucoin surname, and one is a result of Alexandre Aucoin’s descendants who were deported back to France, arriving on Belle-Ile-sur-Mer in 1765.

More Upheaval in La Rochelle

It’s easy to imagine La Rochelle as peaceful after the siege, but that wasn’t the case.

By World Imaging – Own work, photographed at Orbigny-Bernon Museum, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11205885

In November 1661, 300 Protestant families were expelled from La Rochelle, probably some 3000 people. We have no reason to associate the Aucoin family with Protestant leanings, but witnessing the heartache and devastation might well encourage young Martin Aucoin to daydream about leaving for more peaceful lands – or at least land he believed to be more peaceful.

Perhaps this event motivated the younger Martin Aucoin, born about 1650, to leave as soon as he was old enough.

The Elder Martin Aucoin

We have two bracketing events defining the possible death of our Martin Aucoin.

We know Martin was alive when he was married in January 1632 and in February when his son was conceived. I’d also presume (I know, unsafe word) that he was alive later in 1632 when baby Jean Aucoin was born to Marie Sallé because otherwise, the father would have been noted as deceased in the baptismal record and in the subsequent death record for the baby in July of 1633.

It has been presumed (that word again) that Martin accompanied his wife, two daughters, and (possibly) one son to Acadia, although nothing more is ever heard about the son, and some researchers believe Francois was misidentified.

The elder Martin Aucoin’s daughter, Michelle, was born about 1618 in France and had her first child with Michael Boudrot about 1642. Michel Boudrot was already in Acadia by 1639, but he was associated with Charles d’Aulnay so it’s possible, given his position of responsibility as a Lieutenant, that he made trips back and forth to La Rochelle for or with d’Aulnay. Given Boudrot’s residence in Acadia, it’s probably most likely that the Martin Aucoin family immigrated about 1641 and Michelle married Boudrot shortly thereafter.

However, and this is a big however, it’s possible that Boudrot traveled back to La Rochelle where he met Michelle and her family. If Martin Aucoin was living, Boudrot could have encouraged the entire family to immigrate. Given what Martin had been through, it probably didn’t take much. If Martin had been thinking about Acadia anyway, the encouragement of a responsible Lieutenant who just happened to be courting his daughter might have been all that was needed.

If Martin had already passed away, Boudrot could have married Michelle and brought her, along with her stepmother and sister, Jeanne, back to Acadia with him. We do not know that the older Martin Aucoin set foot on Acadian soil, although I think it’s likely.

The elder Martin Aucoin’s daughter, Jeanne, was born in 1630 in La Rochelle and had her first child with Francois Girouard in 1648. We don’t know if she was married in Acadia or France, and we don’t really know for sure where her early children were born either. It’s most likely that she immigrated about 1641 with her parents and married Girouard in Acadia.

We know for sure that Martin Aucoin the elder was deceased by 1671 when Marie Sallé is listed in the census as the widow of Jean Claude and is living with the family of François Bourg, whose wife is the daughter of Michelle Aucoin and Michel Boudrot. In 1678, Marie is still living with the same family but is listed alone in 1686, age 86. If she actually was 86, she would have been born about 1600, meaning it’s very unlikely that she had a child in 1650 or 1651, effectively eliminating her as the mother of the younger Martin Aucoin. However, ages of the elderly tend to grow, and who would know exactly?

We have no further information about Jean Claude or when Marie married him, which would provide us with a hint as to when Martin died.

There is no record or suggestion of additional children born to Marie.

I was baffled for some time about why Marie Sallé’s marriage date to Jean Claude was quoted as “after 1651,” with no source given anyplace. I now realize that it’s because there was a presumption that the younger Martin Aucoin, born 1650/1651 was her son, and she remarried after the elder Martin Aucoin died.

Out on a Limb

I’m going out on a limb here.

We have no more information about Martin Aucoin, born in 1595, or his father, Martin Aucoin, assuming that the Martin baptized in 1595 is “our” Acadian Martin Aucoin, the father of both Jeanne and Michelle Aucoin, and husband of both Barbe Minguett and Marie Sallé. There appears to be unverified information about the mother of the Martin baptized in 1595 in Laleu. Following up on her name might, just might, produce additional information – although we are far back in time.

So would finding the records reported by researcher Jacques Nerrou.

Having said all of this, I have a really difficult time believing that the Martin Aucoin in La Rochelle just two years after the siege of La Rochelle ended was NOT the same man as the Martin Aucoin baptized in Laleu – in part simply because he and his wife and at least one child survived that horrific siege – so it’s unlikely they were actually living IN La Rochelle during that time.

Both Martin and Aucoin are unusual names, and when combined, especially when associated with each other, a family connection is very probable.

Given all of the information we do have, I really doubt that the younger Martin Aucoin, born about 1650 or 1651, is the son of Martin Aucoin and Marie Sallé, although he could be.

I think it’s more likely that the younger Martin Aucoin is the nephew or other paternal line relative of the older Martin Aucoin. Perhaps he had no family left in La Rochelle and followed his uncle to Acadia, some 20 or 30 years later.

If they are paternally related Aucoin men, that means that they would share the same Y-line DNA.

Fortunately, one of the descendants of Alexandre Aucoin, grandson of the younger Martin Aucoin, has taken a Y-DNA test. If Martin Aucoin the younger and Martin Aucoin the older share a direct paternal Aucoin male ancestor, the Y-DNA of Martin the younger represents the Y-DNA of Martin the elder. Of course, we will never be able to test direct paternal male descendants of Martin Aucoin the elder, because no sons survived.

Aucoin Y DNA

What does the Y-DNA of Alexandre Aucoin’s descendant tell us?

To begin with, I’m functioning with a handicap because the tester has only tested to the 37-marker level. Although he didn’t know a great deal about his genealogy, I was able to confirm his descent from the younger Martin Aucoin.

The good news is that he matches two other Aucoin men who have taken the Big Y-700 test and are haplogroup I-FTC21121. They also descend from Martin Aucoin born in about 1650. Ironically, they have both connected the dots in their trees from the younger to the elder Martin Aucoin, but there’s no source information. I understand why it seems logical, but given the evidence we have, it’s probably not accurate.

The great news is that they also match several other Aucoin men, but unfortunately, none appear to have descended from France other than through the younger Martin Aucoin.

However, there’s something else of interest.

One match is a man who descends from a French family that immigrated in the 1800s. His progenitor, with a different surname, say “XYZ,” was born in 1766 in Saint-Pierre, du Chemin, Vendée, Pays de la Loire, France.

This location is only about 49 miles from Laleu and LaRochelle where we first find the Aucoin family. Unfortunately, Mr. XYZ has not taken a Big Y test, so we don’t know how long ago they share a paternal ancestor.

The Discover Time Tree shows us that haplogroup I-FTC21121 was formed about 1588, which maps nicely to what we know about the younger Martin Aucoin.

The Aucoin and XYZ families are related, we just don’t know when or how far back in time, although it could be quite distant. Mr. XYZ only has six 12-marker matches and no others. His Y-DNA is clearly quite rare, not to mention that French men can’t test today. His lack of matches could be a function of rarity, lack of testers, or both.

I wonder if Mr. XYZ would agree to upgrade to the Big Y-700 test, because it would be as informative for him as for the younger Martin Aucoin family. We at least know we’re in the right part of France with his match to Martin Aucoin the younger. That test would tell us when their common ancestor lived.

Still, though, it doesn’t answer the question of whether our Martin Aucoin, born in 1595, and the younger Martin Aucoin, born about 1650, are descended from the same paternal line.

However, autosomal DNA might potentially be useful, assuming their common ancestor lived not too long before Martin’s birth. If Mr. XYZ also happens to autosomally match Acadians descended through Jeanne and Michelle Aucoin but NOT descended from Martin Aucoin the younger, that’s a HUGE hint that the two Martin Aucoins were related.

Could we be that lucky? How far out on this branch am I standing anyway???____________________________________________________________

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