John Combs (1705-1762), Slave Owner, 52 Ancestors #68

John Combs is my most distant proven ancestor in the Combs line.  His daughter Luremia, married Moses Estes about 1762 in Amelia County, VA.

According to John Combs’ deposition given in 1745, he was about 40 years old, so he was born about 1705, probably in Virginia, but we don’t know for sure.  If he was born in Virginia, his father likely did not own property, because there is no Combs, or anything similar, on the list of 1704 Virginia Tax Rent Rolls of land owners.

Furthermore, I believe John had a brother, one George Combs, who was also born about that same time according to a different lawsuit.  Bless those chancery suits.

Most of what we know about John Combs came in bits and pieces and fits and starts and I’ve had to piece it together like a big jigsaw puzzle with no picture and a few strategic pieces missing.

It has been speculated that our John Combs, was the son of another John Combs, of Richmond, who was born about 1662, probably in Old Rappahannock County, VA and died in 1716/1717 in Richmond Co., VA., appointing John Anderson the executor of his will.  John Anderson is later found as a near neighbor to our John Combs in Prince George, then Amelia, County, VA.

However, John Combes of Richmond who died in 1716 does not mention a son John, nor a son George in his will.  It’s not terribly unusual for the eldest son to be omitted from a will, especially if he already has the family land, but for two sons to be omitted?

The 1715 Essex County, VA Rent Rolls include both Edmund Booker and John Combs of Richmond.  Mason Combs was the son of John of Richmond.  He, along with Edmond and Richard Booker later removed to Amelia County where they are found adjacent to land of our John Combs.  Even if our John is not the son of John of Richmond, he may well be related.  John of Richmond is the son of Archdale Combs, who also had a son, William and also possibly sons Charles, Abraham and Phillip.  Bottom line…we don’t know who our John’s father is.

John Combs in Amelia County

The first actual record we find of our John Combs is a land patent in 1732 on Flatt Creek in the part of Prince George County that would become Amelia in 1734.

Land Grant – John Combs, 400 acres (N.L) Prince George Co. on low side of Flatt Creek adjacent Edward Booker and Farguson’s lines, page 486, 40 shillings.  Sept. 28, 1732

We find John, for the rest of his life associated continuously with the Booker, Farguson, Elam, Cobbs, Jefferson and Anderson families and sure enough, his early neighbors on his Flatt Creek land were:

  • Edward Booker (1727 and 1732 grants)
  • John Anderson (1728 grant)
  • Benjamin Ward (1728 grant)
  • Samuel Cobbs (1732 grant)
  • John Farguson (1732 grant)
  • John Elam (1735 grant)
  • Field Jefferson (1733 grant)

This is the original home of Col. Edward Booker, now restored and functioning as a bed and breakfast, located at 11441 Grub Hill Church Road in Amelia County, photo compliments of Google Maps street view.

Combs Booker plantation

Field Jefferson, the Uncle of President Thomas Jefferson, owned land between Flatt Creek and Knibbs (Nibbs) Creek adjoining Col. Samuel Cobbs.

Finding the Booker land was a great help in locating the area where John Combs lived.  On the map below, the red balloon is the Edward Booker home.  To the far right, you can see where Flatt and Nibbs Creeks intersect.  Flatt Creek is the creek at the top, and Nibbs the one on either side of the Booker’s house.

Combs booker map

Highway 630, shown both above and below, running between the creeks, is Eggleston Road.  We know that the Eggleston land and the Booker land both abutted John Combs land, so John’s land was very likely in-between Eggleston Road and Booker’s plantation.

Combs booker map 2

Here’s a satellite image of the area.  You can clearly see the cleared areas where farming would have occurred.

Combs booker satellite

Joseph Eggleston built the plantation, “Eggleston,” shown below,  on the upper side of Knibbs Creek about 1750.  It’s very likely that John Combs stood in this very building.  He may even have helped his neighbor to build it.  Eggleston still exists today and is on the National Register of Historic places and Virginia Historic Landmarks.

Combs Eggleston plantation

The location of “Egglestetton” is shown in the application for the National Register of Historic Places, below.

Combs Eggleston plantation topo

You can see the Eggleston plantation today, at 16530 Eggleston Road, in perspective to the Booker plantation, below.  My guess would be that Combs land was the land directly between the two, or to the right, touching both.  The Eggleston plantation sits on only 16 acres today, so you can extrapolate the sizes of the original land grants based on the size of that plot.

Combs Eggleston to church

So, John lived someplace in this area, likely here.  Four hundred acres would be approximately the amount of land shown below between the bottom of the picture and the three roads.

Combs about 400 acres

In the 1742 court notes, we find the following entry:

1742, April 16 – Robert Forguson appointed surveyor from Combs bridge over Flatt Creek into the courthouse, John, Robert and William Forguson, John Combs and Richard Boram to do the same.

Looking at the Amelia County map, there are only two roads in this area with bridges across Flatt Creek that would allow George’s land to be located between Flatt and Nibbs Creeks, adjacent to Eggleston’s and also to Booker.  On the map below, the Eggleston plantation is marked as well as the church Cemetery.

Either the bridge over N Lodore Road or Grub Hill Church Road has to be the Combs bridge.  The N Lodore Road bridge does not go into Amelia Courthouse, but the Grub Hill Church Road does.  This is the only candidate to be John Combs road and bridge.

At court, in January 1747, John Booker requests that the road near his house on way to Richard Booker’s mill be stopped and the old road near John Comb’s be kept open and he agrees to build a bridge over the run near Comb’s house and keep it in repair.

In 1751, the court ordered Samuel Cobbs, Gent, the surveryor of the road which leads from the church to Ferguson’s bridge and his tithes to work on the same together with the tithes at Anderson’s quarter, Robert Ferguson’s Sr’s tithes, William Southal’s tithes, James Ferguson’s tithes and William Ferguson’s tithes…in order to make a causeway on the upper side of said bridge.  Given the map below, I wonder if the Grub Hill Church Road bridges over Flatt Creek was John Combs and the Lodore Road bridge was the Farguson’s.

Combs 2 Flatt Creek bridges

If the Grub Hill Church Road (609) bridge is John Comb’s bridge, then the land between the church and that bridge must have been John’s too.  Here’s a satellite view of this land between the intersection of N. Lodore Road (636) and John’s bridge on Flatt Creek.

Combs bridge2

Through the magic of Google Maps street view, we can “drive down” that road today and take a look, just the way John Combs would have done.  This is Grub Hill Church Road moving northeast towards  Flatt Creek.  You can see that this would be very desirable farmland, very nearly flat.

Combs - John farmland

In the distance you can see the tree line where Flatt Creek runs.

Combs - John's bridge

Here is John Combs bridge today.  I was extremely lucky to be able to use the road orders plus the remaining historical buildings and the church to piece together enough information to determine where John Combs land was located.  Now, of course, I want to visit.

In 1766, John’s son George Combs and his wife Phebe sell the 50 acres on the lower side of Flatt Creek to William Eggleston, saying it joins Joseph Eggeleston and William Eggleston’s lines, the land formerly belonging to John Booker.  He mentions it is also bounded by John Ferguson, which may turn out to be a really important clue.

John Combs’ Life and Times

Given that John Combs was born about 1705, he was likely married about 1730, just about the time he obtained the land grant.  His wife and the mother of his children, whose name is unknown, is very likely among the families that lived close by, but which family?

For a very long time I believed that she was a Booker, but I have tracked each of the Booker children and there is no unaccounted for child that is a candidate.  Of course, there is always the possibility of missing children, but that is less likely with wealthier families than poor ones.  More to lose.

John Combs is found serving jury duty in Amelia County beginning in 1736, a typical task for landowners.

In 1737, a George March/Marsh Combs appears in Amelia County records.  In 1737, one George Combs was tithed by John Combs, which means he was over the age of 16.  Is this John’s brother, George Combs, or is this someone else? March/Marsh may well be a clue to someone’s maiden name.

In 1755 a chancery suit tells us what George Combs, believed to be John’s brother, was doing in 1740.  We know that Field Jefferson was a near neighbor of John Combs.  This also provides insight into life in Amelia County in 1740.

Amelia Co. Chancery 1755-005 – Combs vs Jefferson (LVA roll 232-492)

January in the year of MCDCCXL (1740) in agreement was made and entered into by and between Field Jefferson whom your orator George Combs has made defendants to this bill and your orator, touching your orator’s becoming an overseer for the said Field Jefferson.  In which agreement it was properly stipulated by…for in consideration of a share of corn and tobacco should forthwith…ownership of the said defendants plantation in the county together with 5 working slaves thereon belonging to the said defendant in order to raise a crop of corn and tobacco.  By virtue of which…and agreement your entered on the said plantation as an overseer accordingly…during the space of two years and about ten months.  That your orator raised considerable crops of corn and tobacco with the said 5 slaves on said plantation for the first 2 years for which the defendant duly accounted and that in the third year he had raised and housed among other things a very large crop of tobacco which he had mostly in bulk and shipped of near a hogshead of the same under mike? And which he fully intended to finish or compleat according to the tenor of the said agreement that about 6 weeks before Christmas in the said third year, the said defendant without any application of previous notice to your orator sent for and ordered his said 5 slaves off the said plantation from under the care of your orator his said crop of tobacco being then in the above condition and unfinished and sent a tenant (one Benjamin Hawkins) to live upon and take possession of the said plantation which the said Hawkins accordingly did and there up your orator being deprived of the assistance of the said 5 slaves and ousted of the said plantation by the said defendant was forced to leave his said crop of tobacco upon the said plantation unfinished.  That your orator however well hoped and believed that the defendant would finish and take a just estimate and amount of his said crop of tobacco and duly pay and satisfy unto your orator his jut share and proportion of the same when he should be thereunto required.  But now so it is may please your worships that the said def and although often in a friendly manner thereto requested by your orator doth altogether refuse to account with your orator ? his shares of the said crop or in any manner satisfying him for the same.  All which actions and doing of the said def are contrary to the natural equity and good conscience and tend to the manifestation injury apprehension? and impoverishment of your orator. In tender consideration whereof and for that your orator is without remedy and in the premises? Of the strict rules of law he having no proof of the quantity of his said crop of tobacco and his evidence to the said agreement being either dead or beyond the seas and in part remote or unknown by the orator and for as much as he can only…as the defendant to set forth upon his oath and declare whether the agreement aforementioned was not entered into by and between himself and the said orator and whether he did not take the said five slaves and at what time from your orator as above set forth, his said crop being unfinished and whether he did not at the same time put a tenant, the said Hawkins, in possession of the said plantation and thereby oust your orator of his employment on the same.  What was the quantity of the tobacco your orator had made ? and left behind him on said plantation?  Whether your orator hath not often in a friendly manner requested the said def to settle with him for his share of the crop and whether he hath ever made him any just satisfaction for rendering him ? and that the def may fully and particularly answer all of the matters.

A note further down on the paper says “ and this complainant doth ? that his share of the aforesaid crop of tobacco for the year aforesaid amounts to 1/6th part to 7000 pounds of tobacco which this defendant prays may be ? to him.”

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For not appearing to answer the bill of complaint of George Combs exhibited against him by the rule of court.

Ordered Field Jefferson on the 4th Thursday of December next

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Feb Court 1755 George Combs vs Field Jefferson Plaintiff – The court this day heard and finds against the said def Field Jefferson to pay to the said George Combs 1176 pounds of tobacco being one sixth part of the tobacco mentioned in the bill.

John Combs’ daughter, Luremia was born about 1740 or 1742, given that she was married to Moses Estes about 1762, their oldest child George being born in February 1763.  I’ve always wondered why this child was named George and not John.  If they did have a John Estes, he died, although their grandson through George would be John R. Estes.  George Estes never knew his grandfather, John Combs, because John died the year before George was born.  I wonder if John Combs ever knew any of his grandchildren.

In 1745, John Combs gives a deposition in another chancery suit, Blake vs Tabb, wherein John states that he is about 40 years old, that he “assisted Frederick Blake away with his food? whom he removed from Capt. Tabbs plantation whereon he was overseer in cold weather and it snowed that night and snow was on the ground next morning. John “+” Combs (his mark) Sept 19th 1745.”

Based on the rest of the case, Blake was the overseer, not John Combs. The punctuation or lack thereof in these old cases is sometimes distressing.  We also now know that John Combs is not literate and cannot sign his name.  This does not suggest a wealthy or “gentlemanly” upbringing.

In November, 1747, John is appointed surveyor of the road where he lives in place of Edward Booker, Jr.  At that same court session, George Combs sues Robert Ferguson, Jr.

John continues to be in the court records on juries and such until 1750.

In 1749, John tithed 6 people, which could have been a combination of both white and black people.  We know that John owned slaves at this time, because in November, 1749, York, a negro boy belonging to John Combs was judged to be age 9 at court.

We originally believed that all of John’s children were born before November of 1750 when he married a second time to Frances Elam, who may have been a widow herself.   However, now there is doubt.  Don’t you just love genealogy, disproving what you think you knew!

September 11, 1750 (Amelia Marriages C:1) John Combs and Frances Elam. Sur. John Booker. Witness to bond, Samuel Cobbs and William May Cock.

In 1751 John Combs purchased another 50 acres on Flatt Creek from John Booker that was adjacent his own land.

In 1751 and 1752, John is listed in the estate account of Frederick Blake and appraised the estate of Michael Nowland, along with attending the estate sale.

In 1752 John Combs’ negro girl Sue is adjudged to be 12 years old. (AC-COB3:72)

This suggests that Sue may not have been born to John as an owner, because if she were, he would not have had to have the court judge her age unless it was simply to confirm what he said.  Slave’s ages were judged at court in order for them to be tithed, or taxed, when they reached a certain age.

In seventeenth and eighteenth-century Virginia, the term “tithable” referred to a person who paid (or for whom someone else paid) one of the taxes imposed by the General Assembly for the support of civil government in the colony. In colonial Virginia, a poll tax or capitation tax was assessed on free white males, African American and Native American slaves (both male and female), all age sixteen or older. Owners and masters paid the taxes levied on their slaves and servants, including indentured servants.  In 1680, the age that “negro children” were tithable was dropped to 12, “Christian servants” were taxed at age 14 and Indian women the same as negro women brought into the state of Virginia.  White women weren’t tithable, but women of color, both black and Indian, enslaved, bonded or free, were.

John Combes continues to be in the court record through 1754 when he purchased 303 acres in Lunenburg County from James Mathews of Lunenburg.  Although the deed does not identify this land, later processioning records do.  You can read more about this land in the article about Luremia Combs.

In 1754, George Combs was summoned at a witness for Field Jefferson against Benjamin Hawkins, 4 days attendance at court, coming and returning 28 miles.  This is very likely a chancery suit covered in this article and George is probably coming from Charlotte County.  The Fargusons are also summoned for this same case, also as witnesses for Field Jefferson.

In September 1754, the court orders John Combs to appraise the estate of Lucy Clark who is the sister of Edward Booker.  Generally there were three appraisers, someone from the wife’s family, someone representing the largest debtor and someone unrelated and disinterested.

In 1755, George Wainwright brings suit against John Combs for debt, and wins.

On February 26, 1756 the court ordered that John Combs clear the Road from Flatt Creek to the courthouse and that the male laboring tithables of Colonel Harrison be added to those already under his direction. (AC-COB4:32)

Four months later, on June 24, 1756 in the court record we find a presentment of the Grand Jury against John Combs for not keeping the road whereof he is surveyor in repair. (AC-COB4:73)

Given that John bought land in Lunenburg in 1754, but continues to appear in the Amelia County records in 1755 and 1756, he may well have not actually moved.  I find it hard to believe the court would order someone who didn’t live there to clear the road.

In 1758, during the French and Indian War, the House of Burgesses passed an act for the defense of the frontier.  A list of men from Amelia County in included, but John Combs is not among them.  At age 53, he may have been considered too old.

In 1762, John Combs died at about age 57 – clearly not an old man, and apparently with some children still at home.  He died intestate, without a will, so his death was likely unexpected.

28 May 1762. Inventory and Account of estate of John Combs. Administratrix: Frances (X) Combs. Returned & recorded May 27, 1762. Witnesses: Wm. Eggleston, John Booker, Edward Booker. Value: 259/5/1-1/2. Slaves: Negro boy Ned and Negro man Harry. (Will Book 2X:18 Amelia County, Virginia. Gibson Jefferson McConnaughey)

  • 15 pigs
  • Four basins
  • Four dishes
  • 11 plates
  • 15 spoons
  • 1 skimer
  • 10 forks and six knives
  • 3 trays
  • 4 bottles
  • 1 butter pot
  • 1 iron
  • 2 slays
  • Loom and harness
  • 2 sack bags
  • 4 pails
  • 4 reep hooks
  • Iron pots and hooks
  • 1 flesh fork and skimmer
  • 1 mans saddle
  • 3 wheels
  • 3 washing tubs
  • 1 grindstone
  • 39 pieces of bacon
  • 7 joles of bacon
  • Some soap and barrel
  • 1 barrel
  • 1 ? pot
  • 10 pounds fat
  • 3 old sifters
  • 1 gum 1 box
  • Part of sides of leather
  • 2 sides, bed cord
  • 1 old blanket
  • Cart and wheels
  • 1 gun
  • Parcel of old iron
  • 2 drawing knives
  • 3 augers
  • 2 adz
  • 1 iron
  • 1 hammer
  • 3 files, 3 chisels, 1 gouge, 1 hand saw, 1 stock and bit, rule and ? of compasses, 3 gimblets, 1 old lock, 1 pair of fleams, 1 all, 1 parcel of brimstone – from 3 files to here is listed together
  • 4 axes
  • Hatchet
  • 4 iron wedges
  • 1 iron sadle
  • 5 hilling hoes
  • 1 gurbbing hoe
  • 1 band hoe
  • 4 harrow hoes
  • 4 plow? Hoes
  • 2 old brass kettles
  • 20 barrels corn
  • 14.5 barrels wheat
  • 9 old casks
  • 6 bushels oats
  • 1 box
  • 1 white horse
  • 1 bayhorse
  • 1 gray horse
  • 1 gray mare
  • 3 bells
  • Parcel of Harness
  • 1 bed rug blanket
  • 2 sheets and bed cord, piller and matt
  • 1 bed bolster piller
  • 3 chest locks
  • 1 basket and a parcel fo flax
  • 1 trunk
  • 3 pair cards
  • 1 box and some spun cotton
  • 1 basket and cotton
  • 1 jug
  • 1 bag and wool
  • 5 chairs and 1 table
  • 7 books
  • 3 yards linen
  • 1 looking glass
  • 1 bed run blanket, pair sheets, bolster piller , cowhide bedsted and cord (one parcel of goods)
  • 1 chest
  • Two bowls, 1 mug, 1 salt seller, pepper box and shears, 2 pair scissors (one parcel goods)
  • 1 candlestock
  • 2 flat irons
  • 1 sword bayonet cartouch box
  • 1 negro boy named Ned
  • 1 negro man named Harry
  • 1 table cloths and 1 bag
  • 1 yearling
  • 1 cart and wheels
  • Parcel of fowls
  • Plow hoe
  • Harness
  • Two cow hides
  • Two slays and harness
  • Candlestick
  • 5 books
  • One pair money scales
  • Razor straps
  • 2 cups
  • 2 galley pots
  • Four vials on pepper box
  • 5 chairs
  • Hone warping bars and boxes and meal tub
  • One bedsted and one chest and oaks
  • One cradle
  • Parcel shoe leather
  • Parcel carols
  • Parcel corn
  • Parcel pork and tub lard
  • Parcel tallow and one table
  • One hh?
  • Parcel beef and one pigeon
  • One tub and two hoes
  • 5 knives and forks
  • 1 frying pan
  • 1 side leather and one horse skin

William Eggleston
John Booker
Edward Booker

Signed by Frances Combs, admin, her mark
Ordered recorded May 27, 1762

Amelia County Tax lists exist for the next few years and give us a perspective on the Combs family.

1762 – Combs

  • Frances tithes – Thomas Tabb’s List, Raleigh Parish [between Flatt Crk & Appomattox River]
  • George – Ditto
  • Philip – John Winn & Hampton Wade’s List, [middle & lower end?] Nottoway Parish

1763 – Combs

  • Frances tithes – Capt Edmd Booker’s List, Raleigh Parish, the upper side of Flat Creek
  • George – Ditto
  • Philip – Thomas Bowrey’s List, the lower part of Nottoway Parish

Given that John’s estate was filed in Amelia County, and his widow is clearly living there, it’s unlikely that John ever moved to his Lunenburg land.

Fortunately, two chancery cases filed provide us with a lot more information about John’s family, including the names of his children:

  • George was not yet 21 when his father died in 1762, so George was born after 1741. By 1766, when George sold the additional 50 acres in Amelia County that his father had purchased, he had married as his wife Phoebe relinquished her dower. George and Phoebe Combs would move to Halifax County, VA.
  • Martha was married to either James Bowls or Bowlins, so she was likely born before 1742 or earlier.
  • Lurany, wife of Moses Estes, probably born about 1740-1742.
  • Mary Combs
  • Clarissa Combs
  • John Combs. The only other tidbit about John is that there one document in Amelia County in 1778, but we have no idea if it’s the same John Combs.
  • Samuel Combs

Estis et us vs Combs – Amelia Co. Va. Chancery Causes 1764 001 (LVA Reel 234-247)

Humbly complaining Moses Estes and Luranna his wife, James Bowlen and Martha his wife, Samuel, George, Mary, Clarissa and John Combs that one John Combs, your orators father, being in his lifetime seized and possessed of a considerable estate and on the (blank) day departed this life intestate. Soon after the deceased on the motion of Frances Combs, the widow and relict of the said John admin. of all singular the goods and chattels rights and credits which were of the said John Combs at the time of his death. And that said Frances then took into her possession all the estate, that by a certain act of assembly made in the year of our Lord 1705? And in the 4th year of the reign of her ?. The orators have appealed to the said Frances Combs for their proportional part aforesaid but the said Frances refuses unless she may be ordered by the court. Your orators show that they are in some distress in being detained form their rights above contrary to equity… beg for consideration…ask that she be compelled to deliver (writing very faint).

Next document is a summons

Summon Frances Combs, admin of John Combs decd, Samuel, Mary, Clarissa and John Combs children of he said John Combs decd to appear… to answer a bill in chancery filed by Moses Estis and Loranna his wife.

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Amelia court held July 22, 1762

Moses Estes Lorana his wife vs Frances Combs wife of John Combs decd

This cause heard and answered this day and ordered that John Booker, William Eggleston and John Cooke do assign to the def her dower in the lands and slaves of one third part of the estate of her late husband John Combs and that they divide the residue of the estate of the said John Combs among the complainant, children of the said John in equal proportions and assign unto each of them his or her share according to law.

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Agreeable to the order here unto annexed we the subscribers have laid off and do assign unto the said Frances Combs widow of John Combs decd her dower in the lands and slaves one third part of the personal estate of said John Combs decd and have also divided the residue of the estate of the said John Combs decd in equal portions among the children of the said John Combs decd and do lay off and assign each their part in manner following viz’

To Frances Combs for her dower in the lands of the said John one hundred and fifety acres beginning in William Eggleston line on the upper side of the same Combs plantation thence down the said Eggleston´s line to his corner at the branch and from thence along Joseph Eggeleston´s line to a new dividing line and then with the said line to the beginning in William Eggleston´s line which includes the houses and plantation whereon the said Frances Combs now lives and for the said Frances dower in the slaves of the said John decd assign unto her one negro fellow named Harry and we do further assign unto the said Frances for her third part of the personal estate the sum of 52 pounds ten shillings 9 pence three farthings.

To Moses Eastis and Lurany his wife for his part of the personal estate of the said John Coombs decd the sum of 14 pounds and 17 shillings and 7 pence farthing.

To James Bowls [could be a slightly different name] and Martha his wife for his part of the personal estate of the said John Combs decd also the sum of 14 pounds 17 and 7 pence farthing.

To George Combs for his part of the personal estate of the said John Combs decd the sum of 14 pounds 17 shillings and 7 pence farthing and being his part equal with the other children.

We also assign and allot unto Samuel Combs, Mary Combs, Clarissa Combs, John Combs each of them the sum of 14 pounds and 17 shillings and 7 pence farthing current money for their part of the personal estate of the said John Combs, decd given under our hand this 25th day of ? 1762.

In a second suit, Moses Estes filed suit against his brother-in-law, George Combs, regarding the ownership of the slave named Ned.  In this suit, we confirm that John Combs did have 6 children living when he died (although 7 are listed in the suit above) and that he had not disposed of any of his property before his death.  We then hear the story of Ned.  Poor Ned – I wonder whatever happened to him.

Eastes et al vs Combs – Amelia Co VA chancery 1769-001 (LVA Reel 235-247)

Your orator Moses Estes and ? blank Eastes that in the year 17 [blank] and George Combs of this county seized and possessed of a certain negro named [blank] and on the day aforesaid departed this life without making any deposition thereof leaving at that time blank children and on this day your orator being one and after the decease of the said Combs one George Combs being the heir at law of the deceased claiming the same possessed himself accordingly without any regard to your orators and the other children then living and since has utterly refused to make any distribution thereof not withstanding your oratrices ? from said equity she is entitled to her dividend part that being the ? upon an equal distribution all while acting and doing of the said George Combs is contrary to equity and good conscience and tend to the manifest injury and appression of your oratrices. Your orator cannot compel him the said George Combs to make an equal distribution thereof without the assistance of a court of equity where they are properly reliable to the end therefore that the said George Combs my upon his corporal oath make his answer to all the matters of things hereinto contained as to whether blank Combs father of the def was not seized and possessed of a certain negro slave named [blank] at the time of his death an if he was what has since become of him. Whether the said George Combs is not now in the possession of him and how doth he claim the same. Whether the decd did not have 6 children your oratrice being one of them. Whether the said [blank] Combs did not depart this life without disposing of any part of his estate and if any what part your orator and oratrice pray that the said negro slave in the bill set forth may be so disposed of as for them to get their equal and distribution part thereof and that they may have such further and other relief as shall be agreeable to the court.

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Aug 1763 – George Combs summoned (in the third year of the rein of George the third ) to answer the bill of chancery filed by Moses Estes

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The defendant George Combs by enotes? Taken not allowing confessing or acknowledging all or any of the matters and things in the said complaintants bill. He says that John Combs died and in his lifetime in the parish of Raleigh in the Co. of Amelia being then possessed of the said slave Ned in the said plaintiff´s bill mentioned as of his own proper slave made an actual gift of the said slave Ned to this def. being then an infant under the age of 21 years whereby the absolute right and interest in the said slave became vested in this def and that he this def by virtue of such gift became possessed and is now possessed of the slave as of his own proper slave and therefore this def doth plead the said gift….the def father John Combs died intestate leaving this def his eldest son and heir at law then an infant under 21 years of age and that this def is now under twenty two years of age. His father left several other children now living and lastly this def.

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Order to examine “George Combs, an aged person” in relation to this case. Aug 1765

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George Combs of Charlotte County aged about 60 years being sworn…says that some time about ten years ago John Combs the father of George Combs the def in the dedimus mentioned by the one certain John Baldwin one negro boy named Ned and this deponent sayeth the first time he see the said John Combs after he had bought the said negro he heard the said John say he had bought him for his son George and that he should have him and he further heard the aid John Combs say that several people had been asking him why he chosed to give all to George and nothing to his daughters when this deponent sayeth that the said John informed him that this intent w[a]s that his son George should have all his land and negroes and that the rest of his estate should be equally divided among his daughters. George “+” Combs (his mark) taken October 6 1765

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Ordered to take depositions July 1766

Next document – Deposition of James Ferguson taken November 26, 1766

James Farguson aged about 46 years being first sworn…says that he was in the company some years past with John Combs decd at John Baldwins and [t]hat the said Baldwin asked the said Combs if he knew of anybody that wanted to buy a negro when Combs asked what sort of a negro Baldwin said he would show him and brought to him a small boy named Ned when this deponent asked the said Combs what service such a small boy as this would be to him, when the said Combs answered “None at al but that it might be of service to his son George”, this deponent further sayeth the next time he went to the said Combs, the said Combs had bought the above said negro boy Ned and the said Combs says to this deponent “I have got my boy how do you like him?” when this deponent “I have no calion? to like him, how do you like him?” when the said Combs said “my boy likes him” and calling the negro boy Ned and then calling George saying “come here my son” and taking each of them by the hand said “here a negro for you my son” and taking the negro boys hand and putting it into his son George´s hand says “I give you this negro boy here before your uncle Jamey and Aunt Patty” which was then delivered to him.

James Fergusson signature

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Deposition of John Feerguson aged about 61 years old

Being sworn…says that he heard John Combs in his lifetime say at several times that he had given negro Ned unto his son George and that once he said the he would send his son to court one of my daughters and that he had given him one negro and would make something of him if he lived. John Fergusson

Nov 26, 1766

Deposition of Parriott Poindle [Prindle] aged about 47…that he has heard John Combs in his lifetime at several times say that he had bought a negro Ned for his son George and that he shall have him at his death for he had worked for to help to pay for him and he shall have him. Parriott “P” Prindle (his mark)

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William Eggleston aged about 35 being sworn…says he was an appraiser for the estate of John Combs decd and that there was a young negro fellow named Ned appraised of the estate of the said John Combs and that no person laid any claim on property on the said negro at [t]he appraisement as he knowed of and he was appointed by the court to lay off the widow of the said John Combs her third of his estate and that [t]he above said negro Ned was then judged to be the estate of the said John Combs decd and that she had her third of the same. William Eggleston (signature)

Nov 26 1766

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Deposition of Edward Booker aged about 35 says he was an appraiser of the estate of John Combs decd and that there was a young negro fellow named Ned appraised of the estate of the said John Combs and that no person laid any claim or property in the said negro at the appraisement as he knows of. Edward Booker (signature)

Nov. 26, 1766

The testimony of George Combs causes me to wonder if all of John’s children were by his first wife as was originally believed.  Piecing this event together, it appears that Ned was bought by John for George about 1755, a full 5 years after John married Frances Elam.  At that time, George said that people asked why he gave everything to George and not his daughters.  Not his “other children,” but specifically his daughters.  However, in the chancery suit after John’s death in 1762, his two eldest daughters were married, so they were clearly born before his 1750 marriage, but three sons are mentioned – George, Samuel and John.  If all of this is correct, then John and Samuel would have been less than 10 years old when his father died.  It’s odd that no guardianship papers were found.

The repeated useage of the name George, as in John Comb’s brother, John Comb’s oldest son and then Luremia’s oldest (but not necessarily first) son suggests that George is a family named in this Combs line.

The Fargusons

From this suit, we find our one and only clue as to a relationship between John Combs and any other people.

We know that James Farguson was age 46, so born about 1720, and was married to Patty, which could have been a nickname for something else, in about 1755 when the purchase of Ned occurred, according to George Combs the elder, probably the brother of John Combs.

If James Farguson and Patty were the aunt and uncle of George (the younger), that means that either James or Patty were the siblings of John Combs or his first wife, whose name we don’t know.

Since the surname is not Combs, we know that James Farguson is not the brother of John Combs, unless he is a half-brother.

There is a James Farguson who continues to be involved with George Combs after he moved to Halifax County.  We find those records in 1772 and 1783.

I decided to do a quick runthrough on the Farguson family to see what I could find…and I’m telling you, the Combs men, meaning both George and John, fought way too much with the Farguson’s NOT to be related.

I surely wonder if James Farguson’s wife, Patty, is a Combs.  That would explain both John and George’s constant interaction with this family. John Combs first wife could also have been a Farguson.

The Farguson family certainly is interesting.  When you look at the six families who obtained the land grants in the 1730s and in essence, cast their lots together, whether intentionally or otherwise, one would presume that they are about the same economic and social level.  Not so.  The Booker family was quite wealthy.  We find them sitting as judges at court and Edmund Booker represented Amelia County in the House of Burgesses.

John Combs seems to have been a relatively respectable “normal” man for that place and time.  This means he owned land, served on jurys, helped to maintain the roads, and yes, he owned a few slaves.  He was not a large plantation owner but owned a respectable size farm.  He was “middle class” for his day.

The Fargusons, on the other hand, were, well, the wild children of the neighborhood.  Every neighborhood has one of those families, and the Farguson’s seem to be the group that was constantly in some kind of trouble.  Usually not terrible, although there is one notorious exception to that – but ever-present and chronic.

Uncle Jamie, or James Farguson was sued so many times for debt, assault and trespassing that I stopped keeping count.  He was also presented to court several times for “profane swearing.”  I don’t know what he did, but at least once he was sent to prison directly from court for his “ill behavior” during the court session. It might be worth mentioning that at this time in history, there was a lot of drinking that went along with court sessions.

James was sentenced to jail several times too, but generally it was only until he paid his fine.  However, in at least one case, he spent at least 20 days in jail because he refused to pay.

1740 – George Combs sues James Farguson

1742, April 16 – Robert Forguson appointed surveyor from Combs bridge over Flatt Creek into the courthouse, John, Robert and William Forguson, John Combs and Richard Boram to do the same.

1743, July 25 – Court Order Book 1, Lodwick Ferguson committed on suspicion of felony.  Prisoner brought to bar and milemus read.  The following testimony given under oath.

(Note that I have omitted many depositions from this case and included only the ones that reconstruct the Farguson family, but you can read additional Farguson Amelia County entries at this link.

Thomas Whitworth said he had in a small trunk belonging to his daughter, about 35 pounds, chiefly consisting of gold pieces, which were as he believes, double doubloons, and said money was stolen from the trunk and that he has strong reason to believe that Lodwick Fergerson stole the same.

doubloons

James Fergerson, brother of said Lodwick, came to his house and asked him to go to Lodwick’s father, which he did, and said Fergerson with sons John and Robert wanted to compound with him and offered to enter into bond payable to Whitworth for payment of what money he had lost if he would discharge the prisoner and say he had gotten his money.

Thomas Whitworth, Jr., said…that Lodwick had been committed to the prison for an examination.  Fergerson offered to compound with him on behalf of his father, telling him he could make up about 22 pounds of the money and he would have bond and security for the rest, for he would rather do anything than be hanged.

John Harrison said when Fergerson was in prison, he, Fergerson, desired him to tell his brother John to help him, for he expected to die.  Lodwick told him that he had borrowed 8/14/0 from Samuel Martin, that old Fergerson, father of the prison John Ferguson, Robert Fergerson, brother to him and John Gillintine were to become liable to pay Whitworth the money he supposed Lodwick had stolen from him, if Whitworth stay 2 years.

Prisoner to be tried at next general court held at the capitol in Williamsburg next October.  Prisoner requests bail and court considers that prisoner must give 200 pounds and his securities 100 pounds each against his appearance at next general court.  Robert Fergerson, John Fergerson and Robert Fergerson Jr. securities.

I find no further records of Lodwick, so I wonder what happened to him.  Was he hung in Williamsburg?

1743, December – John and Elizabeth Fergerson vs Thomas Burton.  Jury sworn.  Verdict: By evidence of John Willson and James Robertson that “Thomas Burton did say he never wanted for f***ing the plaintiff’s wife when he pleased.”  (Yes, that really was the f word in the court notes.  I always wondered how long ago that was in use.)

1745 – George Combs sues Robert Farguson

1745 – James Farguson sent to prison for 20 days

1746 – George Combs vs Robert Farguson in trespass

1746 – James and Robert Farguson sued for debt together

1746 – John Farguson sued Benjamin Hawkins

1746 – John Farguson is on the same road crew as John Combs

1747 – John Farguson sued Benjamin Hawkins for slander

1748 – James Farguson for trespass

1748 – James Farguson – treason for speaking against the King and refusing to keep the peace

1749 – Robert Farguson to keep an ordinary at his house

1750 – James Farguson – profane swearing

1751 – James Farguson – profane swearing

1751 – James Farguson’s to the bridge which is on the same road as Winterham, the name of the Edward Booker plantation

1751 – James Farguson – assault and Battery – sent to jail with a fine of 10s until paid with costs

1753 – James Farguson – assault and battery

1753 – Bridge over Flatt Creek near James Farguson’s out of repair

1754, April – James Farguson ordered into prison for his ill behavior during the sitting of this court.

What the heck is “profane swearing?”  I mean, I think I know, but maybe not.

I couldn’t find Virginia’s statute, but here is Maryland’s from 1723.

“If any person, by writing or speaking, shall blaspheme or curse God, or shall write or utter any profane words of and concerning our Saviour, Jesus Christ, or of and concerning the Trinity, or any of the persons thereof, he shall, on conviction, be fined not more than one hundred dollars, or imprisoned not more than six months, or both fined and imprisoned as aforesaid, at the discretion of the court.”

So, I guess damn is swearing, but profane swearing would add God in front of that.  Got it.

Another researcher, using detailed tax and tithe records, found Lodwick and James both listed as tithes of Robert Farguson.

Based on all of the combined information, here is the Farguson family reconstruction as best I can tell.

  • Robert Farguson, wife Mary
  • Sons James, Robert, Lodwick and John.
  • James Farguson is the Uncle of John Combs’ son, George, so James either is a sibling or married to a sibling of John Combs or his first wife.

So, I have to wonder, what did John Combs and his wife tell their children about their irreverent uncle, James Farguson, who was always in some kind of trouble? Was he the family member that everyone uses for a bad example?

“Don’t cross your eyes like that…you’ll wind up like Uncle Dufus.”

You have to admit, life was certainly interesting, much more so than one would expect.  This is not exactly the southern plantation stereotypical lifestyle of Tara, sitting around in white dresses under parasols drinking peach brandy and sweet tea.

John’s Final Resting Place

So, after all of this, where is John buried?  Well, we simply don’t know, but let’s look at the possibilities.

First, there are a lot of early Eggleston burials in the Grub Hill Church cemetery located not far from the Eggleston property.  In fact, it’s certainly possible that this was the original Eggleston cemetery.

Combs Grub Hill Church sign

The Booker family reports that there was a family cemetery on the Booker plantation, but the current owners say there is no cemetery there now.  Likely, there were no marked graves and over the years it disappeared and either returned to nature or became farmland.  There are no Farguson burials or pre-1900 Ferguson burials, so that family may have left entirely.

Grub Hill Church, the oldest church in Amelia County, was built around 1754 and rebuilt in the 1850s and it lies in very close proximity to these plantations.

Combs Grub Hill Church cem

It’s very likely that John Combs attended this church, as it was the only church at that time and Anglican church attendance was required.  Given that, he may well be buried in this churchyard.  It is the closest cemetery to his homestead, or, he’s buried in a lost family cemetery.  The church reports that they have burials into the 1700s.  John’s first wife, mother of his children, is a candidate to be buried here as well, as is his second wife, Frances.

Combs Grub Hill Church cem 2

Slavery

As I write each one of these 52 ancestors articles, I feel like I really get to know that ancestor on a personal basis.  I try my best to learn what their life was like – how their community worked, where they went to church, and any tidbits I can find about their home life.  I try, as best I can, to see their life from the perspective of the time they lived, not from my cultural and social vantage today.  Often, the only glimpse we get inside their daily life is an estate inventory or sale – where the cumulative efforts of their life work are sold with the proceeds divided among their heirs.

After my step-father’s death, my mother had an auction before she left the farm and moved to town.  It was the equivalent of an estate sale and it was exceedingly painful to watch.

In colonial America, because our ancestors lived so long ago, there are no family stories or memories about John Combs or anyone in this timeframe to be passed down through the family.  He is my 5 times great grandfather, or 7 generations upstream from me.  Oral history stopped at about the 4th generation.  Anything we find has to be through public documents such as deeds, court notes or chancery suits.  That’s the only way we find out about rowdy cousin Jamie Farguson.  It’s also the way we find out about things like slavery.

Because slaves were treated as property, because, at that time, that’s what they were – there are often, but not always, records of transactions involving slaves.  In some cases, sales are recorded in court or deed books.  That’s not the case in Amelia County in records relevant to the Combs family.

We discover in three ways that John Combs was a slave owner.  First, two slave children that he owned, Sue and York, were presented to the court for their age to be determined.  Second, he was tithed at one point with too many people for them to have been family members – so it’s likely that at that point in time he owned 5 slaves over the age of 12 or 16.  Lastly, when he died, there were two slaves in his estate, Ned, a boy, and Harry, a man.  The chancery suits fill in a few blanks.

If we think our genealogy is difficult, try having only the first name of a slave ancestor and if you’re exceedingly lucky, an owner’s name.

John may not have owned slaves until 1749, just prior to his marriage to Frances Elam.  His son George is too young to have been tithed to him, so it’s likely that John Combs had 5 slaves that year over the age of 12.  One of them was York.  The others may have been York’s parents.  Sue may have been one of those slaves too.

We know that John bought the child, Ned, about 1755 for his son George.  I’d like to think that they were playmates, but even if they were close, the expectation that as they became older, that one would serve the other, for the rest of his life, or until sold, was clear.  It was not a friendship of equals, if it was a friendship at all.

My heart goes out to Ned.  He was called a boy in 1762 in John Combs estate, and that was several years after John had purchased Ned.  George Combs refers to Ned as a “young boy” when he was purchased.  Ned was obviously separated as a child from his parents and anyone else that might have been his family.  We don’t know the circumstances.  His parents could have been dead.  What we can probably say without fear of being wrong is that Ned was without parents or even parent-figures.  Ned was a black child in bondage, alone, except for the white child he had been given to.

Ned’s saving grace was that he did have value based on the labor it was expected he would be able to produce as an adult – and for the time being – as a playmate for George Combs.  In many cases, the fact that slaves were so valuable is what literally, saved them.  For example, indentured servants, who were only bound for a period of time, often 7 years, were sometimes literally worked to death – because they had no residual value to their masters.

Slavery, meaning bondage for life, bothers me…a lot – both in practice and in principle.  Indentured servitude does not.  It may have been rough, but people signed up for that willingly.  Slaves had no choice in the matter and no opportunity for freedom other than through the generosity of their masters or groups like the Quakers who bought slaves with the intention of freeing them.

I’m so very thankful that John Combs wasn’t involved in slave trading.  We pretty much know who those slave-trading families were.  Wealth went along with slave trading – and so did being inherently heartless.  The fact that John owned (at least) four slaves, even though not a lot by Virginia standards, bothers me.  The culture of slavery bothers me.  That fact that “everyone else was doing it” does not justify the behavior.  In fact, “everyone else” was not participating, but certainly the wealthy Virginia landowners were.  John owned a relatively small tract of land and his slaves would have been working alongside himself and his family members.  There were no overseers.  In fact, John’s brother George was an overseer for Field Jefferson – which also bothers me.  Clearly the family, as a whole, had no problem with slavery as an institution and participating in that institution.

It’s easy to make excuses, like, “If I don’t buy them, someone else will.  They’ll still be slaves anyway.  They’d be better off with me.”  While that might have been true, it still doesn’t justify slavery.  Nothing does.

I try very hard when I write these summaries of my ancestors to not judge their lives or what they did.  I try to view these people in historical context, and although slavery is a dark blot and stain on the history of our country as a whole, it is a fact of life and it was accepted as normal at the time.  It happened and it’s over.  Some even say that the slaves here and their descendants represent those who were lucky enough to live.  Before slavery offered a lucrative option for what to do with war captives in Africa, they were killed. In the colonies, the same was true of Indian wars and war captives.  Before white traders got involved as middlemen, both African and Indian slaves were captured and killed or sold, by a different tribe of their own people.

While slavery was awful, and those caught up in its tentacles were clearly victims, it wasn’t sure and certain death.  Was it better than death, for the Africans who survived the Middle Passage and went on to have descendants, and for the Indians captured as children and raised as slaves?  Probably, because without our slave ancestors, we descendants would not be alive today.  And there was always hope for a better tomorrow.

Yes, I said we.  I am mixed race – a combination of European (white), Native American from multiple lines, and African.  My white ancestry and ancestors have been much easier to find than my ancestors of color.  That’s because the black ancestors were enslaved and the Native ancestors were annihilated in a variety of ways.  Most people don’t take well to invaders taking their land and slaughtering their families.  The only alternative to death was assimilation – and my ancestors did, as quickly as possible.  It was a matter of survival.

For me, it’s particularly difficult when I read about slavery among my ancestors, because I know I have family on both ends of the stick and I feel very strongly about equality and freedom of choice.  Not only am I mixed race, having endured discrimination on both sides of that fence, especially as a child, too dark to be white but too white to be “of color,” but I am a female who grew up in an age where discrimination against women in various forms was accepted as the status quo.  It too was institutionalized, cultural and considered “normal.”  And it too was and is wrong, unjust and indefensible.

When I write these summaries of my ancestors, I’m limited by the records we can find that reflect the various stages of their life.  John Combs may not actually have been identified in his lifetime by being a slave owner, especially as compared to his neighbors with large tracts of land and lots of slaves.

For all I know he was a pious man and loved his slave family as his own family.  But we have no letters from John, no diary, no account books, nothing.  All we have is the dry court order books, tax lists and the chancery suit following his death.  And in these records, the theme of being a slave owner runs through each one.  I can’t shake it, and when I think of him, that’s really what I think of.  I wish I knew more so that I could have a better rounded picture of John Combs as a person, but I don’t.  All I really know is that he owned land and owned slaves, and that fact permeated every aspect of his life, even after his death.  It’s the elephant in the room I can’t seem to see around.  Today, it’s the aspect of his life that defines him, perhaps because there are records of slaves and there aren’t records of other things.  Regardless of why – it’s still what defines him because that is the information we have.

This certainly makes me pause to think about what will be left of my lifetime to represent me in another 250 years, assuming I have any descendants and anyone is interested.  It won’t be court orders, that’s for sure, but if they mine Facebook, they’ll discover that I take pictures of flowers in my garden, have 3 websites/blogs (will they know what a blog is?), that I have a special penchant for cats, have a fur family, including a grand-puppy, and that I’m a quilter.  Of course, it goes without saying that they’ll know I’m a genealogist too, with grandchildren.  They’ll be able to get to know me at least somewhat through my postings and my blog listings, although assuredly the blogs will be long gone so they would only be looking at the first paragraph or so posted on FaceBook and one of the photos.  They will probably be pulling their hair out, wishing that somehow, those blogs had been preserved in time.  I feel their pain!

I wonder what kinds of things we do today that won’t be considered culturally and socially acceptable in another 250 years, and how my descendants will think of me.  I’m guessing my 52 ancestors article title would be something like, “Roberta Estes, Mis-Behaved Cat Loving Genetic Genealogy Blogger, Quilter and Gardener.”  But then again, that’s from my perspective today.  Not to mention that my Facebook page omits several aspects of my life.  My 30+ year career, my college degrees, my husband and children, etc.  It’s more complete for me than the information we have about John Combs, but it’s still woefully lacking.

I’m sure there are many aspects of John Combs life that we are missing too.  John Combs might have looked at his article title, “Slave Owner,” with pride because owning land and slaves was the measure of success in Virginia in his lifetime.  Given that John started out as a man without an education, unable to even sign his name, he would likely have been very proud of his achievements – rising to the status of landowner, slave owner and juror.

John’s DNA

The one aspect of John we’ve yet to investigate is DNA.  In this case, we have a serious problem, because we only know what happened to one of his sons, George.  John’s sons, John and Samuel disappear, but they may have survived.  We don’t know.

John Combs’ son George married Phoebe, whose surname is unknown and they moved to Halifax County.  They had daughter Judith who married Jesse Dodson, Polly who married Bolling Hamblett, Larcenee who married George Shelton, Phebe who married Thomas Yates in 1788 and then moved to White County, TN, and one son, George, who married Elizabeth Yates in 1809.

To test George’s Y DNA, we would need to find a direct male descendant of his son George who married Elizabeth Yates who carries the Combs surname.  The problem is, we don’t know what happened to him.  And for all those couples who have hundreds of Ancestry trees, there isn’t one, not one, for him.

Our other possibility would be descendants of George Combs the elder, who was born 1701-1705, likely the brother of our John Combs.  He lived in Charlotte County, but we don’t know what happened to him either, or if he had sons.

Looking at the Combs DNA project, we can see that indeed, there is one person who descends from Archdale Combs, haplogroup I-M233.  Judging from the number of markers utilized, the original Combs DNA project was, unfortunately, not at Family Tree DNA.  All of the other companies have discontinued their Y DNA testing business. Based on this information, I checked at www.Ysearch.org and discovered that indeed, these testers are haplogroup I-M233.

So, if our John Combs is somehow descended from Archdale, this would be his Y DNA haplotype and haplogroup.  The problem of course is that making that determination with almost no evidence a very broad step, more like a leap of faith, an assumption with a lot of maybes and it’s a very large leap I’m not comfortable making.

Furthermore, even if our John was proven to descend from Archdale on paper, that doesn’t mean the DNA matches.  One should always, if possible, confirm by testing at least two descendants of the male ancestor in question, meaning through different sons.  Of course, in the case of our John, we can’t even find one son’s descendants, so we’re left waiting for future developments.

The next avenue I tried was to contact the Combs DNA project administrators and ask if Family Finder folks were welcome.  Many Y DNA projects don’t want to deal with autosomal matching.  Fortunately, the admin was very gracious and it says right on their project site that they welcome autosomal folks.  That’s the good news.  The bad news was that we did not match the male who tested from Archdale – assuming he has taken the FF test, which I can’t tell.

Lastly, I used Family Tree DNA’s new search function to see if I could find anyone in their data base who descends from our John, or George.  If they haven’t taken the autosomal test, this would be a great opportunity.  Unfortunately, no luck there either.

Three strikes and I’m out – for now.

I’m hopeful that someone who descends from John Combs or his brother George Combs will read this and perhaps they too will be curious.  If so, please let me know.  I have a scholarship for the first proven male Combs descendant!

Collaboration

I can’t end this article without saying something about collaborative research.

Combs researchers are very fortunate that for several years, through 2010, there was a very active research group whose work is, thankfully, preserved on the Combs-Coombs website.  I am both a contributor and a benefactor and I am very grateful for all of those who have contributed, coordinated and preserved these Combs records.  I wish all of my surnames had a site like this.

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44 thoughts on “John Combs (1705-1762), Slave Owner, 52 Ancestors #68

  1. I agree with everything you said about slavery.

    The slaves who came to America were already slaves in Africa, in their own country, enslaved by their own people. Had they stayed in Africa, they would still be slaves in Africa.

    By coming to America, they are now free to become who they want. Some of the wealthiest and most successful people in America are African Americans.

    Michelle Obama was the granddaughter of a slave. And she is now the wife of the President of the United States of America. Wow!

  2. I found Kesia Ferguson’s family in her father’s will. Kesia married Abraham Estes. They moved to Mercer County, Kentucky and both died there. She was my 3X grandmother. Thanks! Maybe the Ferguson reputation was the reason Abraham moved his family to Kentucky.

    The two most heinous crimes of American people: black slavery and what we did to the American Indians. Some of my Maryland ancestors were slave owners and some were not. No wonder we fought the Civil War.

  3. Very thoughtful article concerning slavery. One of the most thought provoking documents I’ve found during my research was a deed of gift I found at stokescorod.org, where digitized deeds going back to the 1700’s in Stokes County, NC can be found. This deed of gift from William Hill to Sally Hill and her husband, Mastin Simmons was dated 1839 and it transferred ownership of a 6 year old slave boy, Henderson, to Sally and her husband. I can’t imagine separating a child so young from his mother and father. But then, further to the story, Henderson, at the age of 39, was later shown a free man in the 1870 federal census living next to Sarah (Sally) Simmons and her family. Henderson’s race is shown as “mulatto” and his wife and 7 children are listed as “black”. In this record, Henderson has taken the surname Simmons, the name of his former owner, for his last name. It is interesting to note that Henderson was bi-racial and made me wonder if his biological father was his mother’s slave owner. It is unlikely his father was a Simmons since he wasn’t owned by the Simmons family until he was 6. But I know it was not uncommon for slave owners to father children by their female slaves. I was glad to see Henderson free and a husband and father in 1870. And since he took the surname Simmons and chose to live next to his former owner, I like to think that his former Simmons owner, Mastin, my first cousin 5 times removed, treated him decently.

  4. Hi Roberta

    I was most interested in your post today on the Combs family of Virginia.

    I have drawn up a tree on Ancestry.com.au for my son’s fiancée Caprice Johnson who has a 4th great grandmother, Mary Frances Combs, born 15th Nov 1807 in Romney, Virginia. Being an Australian I’m not familiar with which county that might be in.  She married James Davidson 25 Jan 1829 Lawrence Co, Ohio and died 11th Mar 1888 in Burlington, Lawrence, Ohio.

    I have her possible parents as Thomas Combs born about 1785 and Margaret Harley, and grandparents Jonal Combs and Frances Bilbee (no places named)

    It occurred to me that Mary Frances Combs might be related to your Combs family of Virginia and wondered if you had any further information or thoughs about this? Although, your article was obviously so thoroughly researched that you probably covered everything you know about the family. But you never know – they might be the same family.

    http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/56509138/family?cfpid=46011496595 [1]

    Link to Caprice’s tree above.

    Best wishes

    Merilyn Pedrick

    Aldgate, South Australia

  5. I was just reading this and you mentioned the supposition of a Booker being the wife of a certain individual.I am descended from the same Combs family, but I am related to an African-American person whose last name is Booker. I didn’t know how we were related, but on 23 and Me we have been identified as related as distant cousins.

    I don’t think I descend from Bookers, but I am definitely from the Combs. My Combs line ended up in Breathitt and Owsley Counties, Kentucky.  It may just be then that the lady was a Booker. But perhaps it may be also that his unaccounted children were slaves who were still called Booker. It is apparent that someone named either Combs or Booker made a baby that is a common relative to me and the other person.

    From: DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy To: karamoore1967@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 1:02 PM Subject: [New post] John Combs (1705-1762), Slave Owner, 52 Ancestors #68 #yiv2060495945 a:hover {color:red;}#yiv2060495945 a {text-decoration:none;color:#0088cc;}#yiv2060495945 a.yiv2060495945primaryactionlink:link, #yiv2060495945 a.yiv2060495945primaryactionlink:visited {background-color:#2585B2;color:#fff;}#yiv2060495945 a.yiv2060495945primaryactionlink:hover, #yiv2060495945 a.yiv2060495945primaryactionlink:active {background-color:#11729E;color:#fff;}#yiv2060495945 WordPress.com | robertajestes posted: “John Combs is my most distant proven ancestor in the Combs line.  His daughter Luremia, married Moses Estes about 1762 in Amelia County, VA.According to John Combs’ deposition given in 1745, he was about 40 years old, so he was born about 1705, probab” | |

    • Hi Kara,
      I was excited to see your response to Roberta’s excellent recitation of her spot-on research. You indicated you were related to someone with the name Booker. Do you know anything about the enslaved Bookers in Amelia County, VA? I am trying to learn whether my third ggm, Margaret Booker, who was living in Randolph, WV, in 1863, was actually born to a slavemaster surnamed Booker from Amelia, VA. Do you know whether your Booker relative has taken a DNA test whose results I could compare to mine?

  6. Dear Roberta J. Estes: For several months, I have been following, with great interest, your most fascinating posts concerning DNA and your Virginia ancestors.  You have a great gift of finding the “kernel” of what you are researching, and then bringing it out in a most entertaining and educational way.  Thank you for sharing these experiences with us. On the advice of Diane Gray, I took the autosomal test and find that I am not descended from her ancestor JOHN HIGGERSON of Hanover Co, VA which she says has a Scandinavian background.  In addition to this John Higgerson of Hanover Co, VA, there are  two, possibly three other John Higgersons in the Stafford Co, VA area.  Most of this is “assumed”.  Unless we find some hitherto  unknown records, we may never “prove” these connections.  I haven’t delved into the land and property records yet, – deeds, etc.

    She tells me that I am descended from the Hickersons of Stafford, Fauquier, and Fairfax Counties, VA.  I had previously determined that I am descended from the Thomas Hickersons of Stafford Co, VA. through my research many years ago.

    From the Overwharton Parish Registers, there is a Thomas Hickerson that I call Thomas (1)  Hickerson (ca 1678-before 8 Mar 1747, wife Sarah _____ (ca 1681- after16 Jun 1743).

    I have found only one son of this marriage:  Thomas (2) Hickerson (ca 1700-21 Feb 1755 “at John Waters” md abt 1722 to Sarah _____ [possibly Elwood? as a daughter was named Sarah Elwood Hickerson.]  Other children by Thomas (2) Hickerson and Sarah _____ (Elwood?) were possibly your Charles Hickerson, Nathaniel Hickerson, John Hickerson, William Hickerson and Thomas (3) Hickerson (26 May 1736 – before 6 July 1812, Warren Co, KY. Thomas (3) Hickerson and his wife Mary _____ were dismissed from the Broad Run Baptist Church and “gone to Halifax” where he obtained 400 acres on Pigg River in Henry Co, VA.  They had at least 11 children and moved from the Halifax area to Warren Co, Ky. where Thomas (3) Hickerson had several references and then he died before 6 Jul 1812 and his property was inventoried. My ancestor is the son of Thomas (3) Hickerson and Mary _____, Capt. John Hickerson (“a Brave Man”) (abt 1756, Fauquier Co, VA – Summer 1790, Sumner Co, TN)  He was killed from an Indian ambush as Gen. Winchester & company were pursuing invading Indians.  Capt. John Hickerson married abt 1783 to Patsey Loving (1766- Bedford Co, VA and died after 1850 Census in Smith Co, TN where as Patsey Harper (she had md 2) as his second wife Matthew Harper she was living with her daughter).  She was the dau of William Loving (abt 1730 -23 Apr – 22 Sep 1767 Bedford Co, VA) and Elizabeth ___.  There are two William Loving families in Bedford Co, Va and my relative is the one who died the soonest, 1767.  They only had four children.  The other William Loving had a large family and lived well past 1767. Capt. John Hickerson and Patsey Loving had only four children:01.  Sgt. William Loving Hickerson (War of 1812) md 2) Melinda Luster.  My ancestors02.  Cpt. John Hickerson (War of 1812) md wife unknown but had at least 5 children.03.  Pvt. Isaac B. Hickerson (War of 1812) md Mary L.  ____, the ancestors of Melinda Hickerson, who also has a DNA test and has been a great help to me.  She descends through their son Moses Hickerson.  04.  Tabitha Hickerson I was particularly interested in you VANNOY – HICKERSON connection.  I’m afraid that is what needs to be done, (make bold assertations) on these early VA families. Again, thank you for so freely sharing your knowledge and experience and expertise.  I would appreciate hearing from you when you have a few moments free.  Best wishes. Sincerely, Wilford W. Whitaker

  7. Dealing with the knowledge an ancestor owned a slave is very difficult. My great great grandfather had one and he was in his fifties when the Civil War came to GA. He was at home with his wife, two daughters, wife’s widowed sister and her small children when he joined the troops in GA and left his slave, John, to take care of everybody. We have a letter that my great great grandmother wrote saying she had had John go help a neighbor. These stories are very poignant but still Grandpa Dollar owned a slave. There is always s sad place in my heart

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  10. What a fantastic post, Roberta. Thank you. My 4th great-grandfather was Dr. Jesse Dodson, who m. Judith, d/o George and Phoebe Combs, 19 Mar 1793 Halifax Co., VA. Although it is widely presumed that my 4th great-grandmother was Jesse’s 2nd wife Nancy Wyatt, whom he m. 6 Apr 1806 Hardin Co., KY, I do have my doubts. Since it’s plausible that I could be descended from Judith Combs, feel free to compare my GEDMatch kits to yours. F381347 and A646112. There may be some value in it.

  11. My husband and I read your post and found it to be very detailed and extremely interesting! We share the thoughts of the folks who have commented on your post and appreciate the opportunity to peek into your experiences. I recently learned that one of my ancestors was also a slave owner and share your sadness at that discovery. To make matters worse, he was a member of the Society of Friends and obviously did not purchase them to set them free. His son inherited them and thankfully had the great good sense to free them…and this took place in Washington Co., NY! My husband, by the way, is a Combs, which is what drew us to your blog. His DNA is still being processed, but we believe he may discover that he is a descendant of a man named Pierre Comeau who came to Nouvelle France (now Nova Scotia) in the 1700s. My personal definition of genealogy: the only hobby that makes you pay for one good answer by giving you three new questions! Good luck in your search!

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  14. Hi Roberta,
    I came to this post rather late but note that my line supposedly descends from Archdale through John Combs to Elizabeth Combs wife of William Kendall. I have autosomal results at GEDMATCH for probably dozens of descendants of William from my family and various Kendall cousins; we likely have sufficient information to identify segments that are associated with particular lines. I am also interested in your findings regarding the slave holding ancestors–our John Combs apparently had indentured servants (http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-j1662.htm) but which of these ancestors had slaves?
    Sincerely,
    Jonathan

    • I would love to work with you on this from a DNA perspective. My John who died in Amelia did own slaves as evidenced in his estate. I don’t know about the other lines.

  15. Hi thanks for this interesting information. I was looking up Egglesetton Farm and came across your website. I am a direct descendant of Joseph Eggleston. His daughter is my great great great great grandmother. I think its neat that the house is still standing. Its too bad its not open to the public.

    • It’s a beautiful farm. If you ever get the chance please go. The church near the bottom of the article is likely where your family attended church too, as it was the only church in that proximity at the time. Our ancestors probably knew each other well.

  16. Hi, I have noticed this is an old post and you may have found what you are looking for already. But just in case I am a verified descendant of Archdale Combs and I have taken both Autosomal (Family Finder) and Y111 at Family Tree DNA. GEDMATCH ID#Z849248, YSearch ID# 2ZTXW. The Archdale line is from Haplogroup I, it is the only Combs line from that group where as all the others are from Haplo R. There are about 6 of us now from this line descending from various Combs descendants that are in the Combs Project on that website. I hope this helps.

    • To the best of my knowledge, we still don’t have a Combs male from the John or George Combs of Amelia County. The lines may have gone extinct, but I surely hope not.

      • Well Roberta you might not want to hear from me. I might be part of that line, but it is back when the Combs first came to America. I am not an expert, but I have a connection to the combs and your husband from what I see. We are related more then what you might want to admit. I have no hard feelings I hope you have none. I am a simple man that expresses himself that way. I have a limited vocabulary so I express myself that way.

        Sincerely

        Danny Stipe

        ps deny or accept it does not matter

  17. I so appreciate this in-depth summary of your Combs family in Amelia, VA, selfishly/particularly because you mention his Booker neighbors.

    I have been trying to find a potential connection between my enslaved third ggm, Margaret Booker, who was released from bondage in 1863 by her slavemaster surnamed Earle (her owner was likely John Bayles Earle 1813-1881). Margaret and her five children–supposedly fathered by her master–were living in Randolph County, (now) West Virginia.

    There were no Bookers that I could find in Randolph, but I did find familial links to Bookers and Earles/Earlys (e.g., Mary Booker Cheatham and Jubal Early) whose Booker ancestors resided in Amelia, VA. There are many white and black Bookers in Amelia and Cumberland. My eye caught sight of the 1860 Slave Schedule in which Lavinia Wilson Hobson Booker, had 45 slaves. I mused whether any of those slaves were connected to mine, so I began scrutinizing the Booker family, looking into their probate records to see if they listed any slaves. What I would love to find is a source for bills of sale from that area.

    In your research, you noted relationships between your Combs and Edmund and other Bookers. I have not done much research yet in Virginia.

    QUESTION: Could you recommend a place/link for me to start looking for a nexus (e.g., bill of sale) between the Amelia, VA, Bookers and Earle-surnamed folks?

    • Bills of sale were generally, but not always, recorded in the deed books. Sometimes there were also sworn to in court. If you have access to either, that would be a place to start. Perhaps easier would be to check the Virginia Chancery Index at the Virginia State Library and Archives. That’s online and you can search in a number of ways. It’s possible that a lawsuit was filed over slaves or an inheritance and if so, you may be the beneficiary. Otherwise, I’d start with the 1850 and 1860 slave census and work my way back as much as possible. And of course, I would look for surname/ancestor matches in your match list.

  18. I am a .combs my self, been trying to find out about Warren combs born 1815 do not know his mother first name or father name,he born in sc father born sc mother born in maryland.

  19. I’m a ancestry relative of 6he Webb family in Kentucky my grandpa. Charles victor Adams. Alice Irene Adams. Elmer Hiner Adams. Catherine Maddie combs down to the Webb. German ancestry. Thank you I live in Lexington KY Karen Ann Williams De la Cruz

  20. Hi, Roberta. I, too, was part of the Combs project years ago, and I, too, descend from a John Combs – the one born in Amelia County and called “RW John Combs.” My uncle took a DNA test, but I’m not sure he submitted it anywhere. Any suggestions?

    Susan Combs Hefner

    • Find out where he tested. We don’t have a known Combs male from this line who has done the Y DNA test. Let’s see if he will do this at FamilyTreeDNA. This will help immensely.

      • George Combs ( April 11, 1816 Wilkes CO., GA- Nov. 3, 1894 Baker Co., FL) has a line that tested in family tree YDNA- I think he may be in your line- if PhillipCombs/ Abigail Hammack ( parents of John Combs 1764), is possibly an un named son of John pre 1705. George Combs, 1816, is from Baker County, FL and in our historical society the books have always listed Frances Elam as his mother (were a few generations off). Where would researchers get the name of John Combs/ Frances Elam in the 1970s unless it was passes down through families?

  21. I am related to this Combs line trough my grandmother Laura Ann Cpmbs Sturgeon. I see so many names from relatives who were neighbors in Va. Field Jefferson as well as all the Combs,erc. my question in your research have you come across the family of Malinda Anderson Sturgeon born between 1800 and 1805 who married John Sturgeon the third. Her granson, my grandfater, marrid Laura Ann Combs. Laura was the cjild of Thomas Jefferson Combs, son of Uriah and Amanda Summitt, child of Uriah Sr. and Elizabeth Hudson, son of Nelson Combs and Hannah Glover. I have more of this line who has a John Combs in it. Could you help fill in some holes. I really would like to find parentage of Malinda Anderson Sturgeon. i am told all the neighbors of Nelson Co Ky traveled in a moving caravan locatind in Ky from Va. I also believe these families we close neighborsa and familis of the Boone, Searcys, Evans, and Williams

  22. Have you looked at the book by Daniel Knight, “ Hammack Ancestors”? He was one of the main contributors to the combs-families.org site. The combs family intermarried constantly with the Hammock family in Wilkes Co., GA that came from Amelia Co., VA ( RS soldier John Combs , b 1764). Knight has listed numerous Combs families in his book. They intermarried so much that it took over a month for RootsMagic administrators to help straighten out my Combs/Hammock line in my RM 9 program.

    • Is Phillip Combs, Sr. b ca 1739, VA-1822-30, Wilkes, GA/ Abigail  Hammock, 1739  an unlisted s/o John Combs 1, b. pre 1701??

      Answer:
      Land Sale by son George Combs , b ca 1740-41, of all of John Combs’ land probably proves John Combs 1, 1705 is NOT the father of Phillip Combs, ca 1739/Abigail Hammock.  John Combs 1  land was sold  by son, George Combs in 1766 (450 acres n Flat Creek, VA) and 1767 (303  acres  Lunenburg land)  -would make George Combs the eldest son.

      LAND of John Combs 1, pre 1701/5-1762:    
      1. 450 acres in Flat Creek, VA
          1766- sold by son George Combs/sp Phebe,
                                                                      2. 303 acres in Lunenburg Co.
                                                                 1767- Sold by son, George Combs, Feb. 12
                        
      * 07 May 1754 Lunenburg Co VA. John COMBS of Amelia Co, VA purchases 303 acres in Lunenburg Co, VA from James MATHEWS of Lunenburg. 
      * 25 Sep 1766 Amelia Co, VA. George COMBS and Phebe, his wife, of Amelia sell 450 acres on the lower side of Flatt Creek in Amelia to Wm. EGGLESTON of same (400 acres of John Combs. John C. COMBS is one of the witnesses. John C. COMBS has not yet been identified, but note that a grandson of John & Sarah MABRY Combs (s/o George Mabry & Agnes ORE Combs) was named John C. COMBS;).
      * 12 Feb 1767 Lunenburg Co, VA. George COMBS sold to Moses ESTIS the 300 acs originally purchased by John Combs from James MATTHEWS.
      * 27 Nov 1775 Lunenburg Co VA Philip (X) COMBS and Abigail (X) COMBS sell to John ELMORE, 150 acs in Lunenburg which was originally granted to Thos. WINN on 7 Aug 1761,.
      DP Note: Lunenburg land does not appear to be inherited by Phillip Combs, b. ca 1739  for ca 1702 marriage from John Combs 1, 1705, probably eliminating him as Phillip’s father.
                        SOURCE: A Timeline for the Combs of Amelia Co, VA (combs-families.org)          
      A Timeline for the Combs of Amelia Co, VA (tngenweb.org)
      * Above probably makes George Combs oldest child of John Combs, 1, 1705/Sp #2: Frances Elam.
      The father of Phillip Combs, b ca 1739/Abigail Hammock (parents of RS John Combs, b. 1764 VA-1849/50, Cobb Co, GA) remains unknown.

  23. PROBLEMS with RS John Combs, 1764:  1923 DAR A025617 & 1834 Pension S31626:
    It appears that the Bankston family is kin to a RS John/Jonathan  Combs of Wilkes/ Oglethorpe, GA  but not RS John Combs, 1764, VA-1949/50.

    1923 DAR RS  John Coombs, b 1764-1806  error by Fannie (Batey) Bankston:

    * 1923  DAR # A025617 application by Fannie (Batey) Bankston- for RS/SC JOHN COMBS, b. 1764 Amelia Co., VA-1806, Green Co., GA( (wrong DOD). – stated he served under Elijah Clark at Battle of Kettle Creek, GA
    Bankston wrote an additional letter (have copy) to clarify there were 2 named “John Coombs” in Wilkes, GA. –she stated  her John Combs  did not apply for RS Pension.
    RS Service on DAR application: Battle of Kettle Creek w Elijah Clarke (from BK “Knight’s
                    Roster Am. Soldiers of GA”, p. 322-379
    Source  RS John Combs, b 1764 family  was: DAR Patriot Index – Volume I, Combs, John: b c 1761 VA d a 1806 GA (m) Mrs. Hannah (Whitaker) Cole Pvt GA, p 597
                       
    Bankston’s RS kin: Nathan Combs, bef 1806-aft 1830/Trecy Lucea Hood,
      s/o RS John Combs, 1764/Hannah W. Cole
     
    * INCORRECT CHILDREN (8) of RS John Combs 1764 listed on 1923  DAR #: A025617
    Jonathan Combs, Bud, Polly (m. James Anderson – in Greene Co., GA by 1820,- John Burnett of Baker Co., FL  connection),  David, Sally, Betsie, Patsy, and Nathan b. 1797, Oglethorpe, GA-1865   (m. Trecy/Lucea Hood )

    * 1834 RW Pension File S31626 for  RS JOHN COMBS, b. 1764  VA-1849/50, Cobb Co, GA, filed  Jan. 13, 1834- Wilkes Co., GA   by John Combs, b. 1764   (Capt. Cooksey, Lisle, Hopkins) enlisted Fairfield Dist, SC, 1779/80, 1783
    Wife or children are not listed in soldier papers. all RS service in SC- NO  Elijah Clarke.

    RS Pension witness: Richardson Booker 
      (DP note: Booker families lived next to John Combs, 1 pre 1702/Sp #2: Frances Elam)   
     SOURCE: Combs &c. Families of Wilkes County, Georgia (combs-families.org)  
        Pension source: S31626 John Combs (revwarapps.org)
        **********************************************************************
    PROBLEMS on 1923  DAR # A025617 by Fannie Bankston for RS John Combs, 1764:
    1. RS John Combs, 1764 -1849/50 filed RW Pension File S31626  on  Jan. 13, 1834- Wilkes Co., GA .  Pension source: S31626 John Combs (revwarapps.org)       
    2. RS John Combs, 1764 died in 1849/50 in Cobb Co., GA  not in 1806, Green Co., GA
    3. RS John Combs, 1764 -1849/50 only served in SC, not in GA. He applied for his pension after moving to Wilkes, GA.
    4. INCORRECT CHILDREN (8) of RS John Combs 1764 listed on 1923  DAR #: A025617
         – appear to be children of  Jonathan Combs/Hannah LNU.  of Oglethorpe, GA – I searched but never found).
    Jonathan Combs, Bud, Polly (m. James Anderson – in Greene Co., GA by 1820,- John Burnett of Baker Co., FL  connection),  David, Sally, Betsie, Patsy, and Nathan b. 1797, Oglethorpe, GA-1865   (m. Trecy/Lucea Hood)
     
    QUESTION: Who are the two named John/Jonathan  Combs in Wilkes Co., GA and possibly Oglethorpe Co., GA in 1800-07?

    1793-  Oglethorpe County carved from Wilkes, Wilkes Co is SE of Oglethorpe Co., GA
          
    1. In 1800 Oglethorpe Co, GA Census- Combs, John, p. 9: 21101-31001-04 [eldest male in HH b bef 1765]
“Note: There may be a second John Combs on this census on P. #000. One or both was probably the John Combs of 1798 and possibly the same of 1791.”
    MY NOTE:   it appears that the1800 Oglethorpe Co, GA Census lists  fRS John Combs, b. 1764, with a son b.  1791. (who later married Patsy Hammock).
    2. 1805 Georgia Land Lottery,
    John COMBS, serial #1401, blank, blank, Oglethorpe Co.
    John COMBS, serial #1784, blank, blank, Wilkes Co.
    SOURCE:  Combs &c. Families of Wilkes County, Georgia (combs-families.org)
    3. 1807 or The Second Land Lottery of Georgia  by Georgia Genealogical Reprints. 1968, p. 40.):)
    Jonathon COMBS of Oglethorpe County was granted Lot #117 in Hudson’s Militia District, District #19 in Wilkinson County. (he got 2 draws).
    SOURCE: Combs &c. Families of Oglethorpe County, Georgia (combs-families.org)
      Oglethorpe Co. GaGenWeb – 1807 Land Lottery Captain Rowland Hudson’s District (rootsweb.com)
    Jonathan Combs: District: Capt. Rowland Hudson. SOURCE:  index a-c (rootsweb.com)

  24. What is the connection between RS John Combs, b 1764, VA and John Combs, b. 1705/SP #2: Frances Elam.? They are NOT father /son.
    RS John Combs, b 1764, VA is the s/o Phillip Combs, Sr. b ca 1739, VA-1822-30/36, Wilkes, GA/ Abigail Hammock, b. June 29, 1739, Richmond Co., VA-aft. Nov. 27, 1775, Lunenburg Co., VA/ d/o Benedict Hammock, b. 1696, VA/Elizabeth Lewis.
    SOURCE: BK: “Hammack Cousins: Hammack and Hammock Families in England and America,1569-2010”, by T. Daniel Knight, 863 pages. p. 476.
    Phillips Combs, Sr. b ca 1739, VA- father is unknown. (is NOT John Combs, 1, 1705-1762.) PROOF: Oldest son of John Combs 1 b. 1705, George Combs, b 1740-41, sold all land belonging to John Combs, 1 in Flat Creeks, VA, 450 acres, in 1766 and Lunenburg (where Phillip later lived), 303 acres in 1767. Above probably makes George, not Phillip, as oldest child of John Combs, 1, 1705/Frances Elam.
    SOURCE (1999 website): A Timeline for the Combs of Amelia Co, VA (combs-families.org)
    RS JOHN COMBS, b. 1764 Amelia Co., VA-1849/50, Cobb Co, GA –
    His 1834 RW Pension S31626 filed in Wilkes, GA- witness is Richardson Booker. This ties RS John Combs, b 1764 back to John Combs, b 1705/Sp #2: Frances Elam whose land was adjacent to Edmund Booker and Richard Booker who had a mill.
    SOURCE: Combs &c. Families of Wilkes County, Georgia (combs-families.org)
    Pension source: S31626 John Combs (revwarapps.org)

    The incorrect 1923 DAR #A025617 (RS John Combs, b 1764-1850, Cobb Co., GA) filed by Fannie Louisa (Batey) Bankston incorrectly list his DOD as 1806, Green Co., GA and his service with Elijah Clarke. Our John Combs, b 1764 applied for a pension in 1834 and died in 1850. He also served only in SC. Bankston appears to be related to one of the two men named RS John Combs in Wilkes,, GA but not RS John Combs, b. 1764.
    WHO do these children belong to??
    1923 DAR #A025617 – INCORRECT CHILDREN (8) of RS John Combs 1764 listed
    Jonathan Combs, Bud, Polly (m. James Anderson – in Greene Co., GA by 1820, David, Sally, Betsie, Patsy, and Nathan b. 1797, Oglethorpe, GA-1865 (m. Trecy/Lucea Hood -Marlene Wall’s ancestor’s sister)

    RS John Coombs/Combs, b. Sept. 7,1764 Amelia Co.,VA-1849/50, Cobb Co., GA
    Sp #1: Hannah LNU, died 1790-97 Wilkes , GA – 4 kids/Daniel Knight (OUR LINE), p. 476 – believed to be Hannah Whittaker Cole, widow of William Cole from Surry Co., NC.
    CHILDREN of RS John Combs, 1764/Sp #1: Hannah LNU, died 1790-97, Wilkes, GA:
    1. Phillip, b 1789/90 m #1. Lucy Smallwood, m. Sept. 10, 1815, #2. Susannah Walker,
    2. John, b. 1791 m. Martha “Patsy” Hammock, 3. SON ca 1792,
    4. William (?) b ca 1794 m. Sarah Slayden, m. Oct 28, 1823.
    Marriage dates source on family Search:
    Ceded Lands: records of St. Paul Parish and early Wilkes Co., GA, Image 9.
    Sp:#2: Millard “Millie” Russell, b. bef.. 1777- died aft 1816, Wilkes, GA 5 kids, d/o John Russell.
    CHILDREN: 1. Daughter ca 1800 2. Zachariah (?) b. ca 1801 m. Mary Rose 3. Daughter, b 1804-10, 4. Son b. ca 1810-20, 5. Son b. ca 1810-20. SOURCE: Hammock Bk, p. 493
    …. oldest sons of John Combs/Milley listed elsewhere: Thomas & John
    Names of RS John, 1764 children are speculative, based on Combs studies in
    Wilkes, GA ca 1800-1850. Phillip Combs- known son, listed 1820 GA Land lottery.)
    SOURCE: BK: “Hammock Cousins” by Daniel Knight, P 492.
    To do research in Washington, Wilkes, GA (Rocky Creek area- 1772) where would I look? Their historical society has not responded to my email about hours/days opened. A lot of historical societies have not recovered from the pandemic -we could possibly lose them forever . Anyone who thinks all of the information is available online has never been to a great historical society.

  25. CHILD of John Combs ,1 pre 1701/5-1762/SP 1 (unkn), SP #2: Frances Elam:
    Mary Combs – mother is believed to be Frances Elam.
    ?? is this Mary Combs, b. ca. 1739 m. Benedict F. Hammock, Jr/II, b. 1732- 1786- would be an in law of Philip COMBS, Sr/ Sp. Abigail Hammock (parents of RS John Combs, b 1764),
    Another site list as s/o John Combs, 1, ‘Frances Elam:
    John Combs, 1750, Stafford, VA- March 1808, Jefferson, TN of Guilford Co, NC & Jefferson TN, h/o Sarah MABRY – his mother is Frances Elam. BONDSMAN: Phillip Combs – long believed to be Phillip Combs, Sr/Abigail.

    NOTE: Benedict Hammock, Jr/II, b. 1732 and Abigail Hammock are siblings. It was thought by combs-families.org group that Phillip and Mary Combs were kin but it was their spouses (Benedict Hammock, Jr.. b 1732 and Abigail, b. 1739) who were siblings.
    SOURCE: BK: “Hammock Cousins’ by Daniel Knight

  26. I think we sometimes read others dna line that we are related to and therefore figure it is part of ours. Some of these you mention are definitely in my line and the only connection we have is Estes, our Susannah Estes married to our Thomas Pore. Just saying, it is easy to do.

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