Big Y Results to be Released February 28th

Big YY DNA Project administrators received the following announcement from Family Tree DNA today.

Three more days…..

17 thoughts on “Big Y Results to be Released February 28th

  1. I’m sorry but $700 for one DNA test just isn’t worth it to me until I win the lottery! I’d rather spend the $700 on 7 autosomal test for other family members in different branches.

  2. I do not yet know if the Big-Y will be worth it or not. I tested / serve as a surrogate for my 17 Payne / Paine Y-surname matches. If the test is worthwhile I will test one of my Y-matches who shares a MRCA b.1629

    Q-M346+, L527+, L529.1+ (English / Scandinavian)

  3. Hmm, went and checked it out, still not understanding the fuss – since I only am interested in genealogical uses – not finding much to be enthused about. Even more so, really unimpressed with Rebecca Canada – read a bunch of her “answers” on the mtDNA page and she SO carefully dodges giving an actual answer about mtDNA that I’ve pretty much decided that mtDNA is useless – just a way for DNA companies to get women to pay huge amounts for absolutely nothing. Every time she was asked what it could “do” for someone looking for their roots she dodged by saying do your genealogy and compare with others. Really???? Been doing that for years and don’t have to spend 300.00 if it’s NOT going to help me. Pretty sad that a woman, would be in her capacity getting other women to waste money on a test for nothing. (if it’s not nothing – then she needs to start explaining herself, and quit dodging questions). Was truly thinking about getting an mtDNA done – but she has pretty well made my decision for me – NOT to do it – a test for mtDNA appears (from her responses) to serve no purpose other than to take womens money and give them false hope for genealogy. (Maybe in another hundred years by her lackluster replies)

    • Not quite sure how this comment came about on the Big Y announcement, but I’ll address it since it’s here. Mitochondrial DNA is more difficult to work with since the surnames change every single generation. You can’t track it back using the same genealogical tools as we can with Y DNA, at least not as easily. I appreciate that Rebekah, speaking for Family Tree DNA, does not give false hope or misset expectations. Having said that, I have had many clients who have gleaned a great deal of useful information from mitochondrial DNA testing. Some have found common ancestors. Some have found clusters of people from whom they descend. Some have proven/disproven European/Native American/African/Asian roots. Some have found the most likely migration path for their ancestors. Some have located where their families were probably from in Europe. There is a lot to be learned and gleaned from mitochondrial DNA, a great deal of potential. And yes, some people are unlucky enough to have either no matches or thousands. I’ve written about mitochondrial DNA several times. My blog is fully searchable. Type mitochondrial into the search box or maybe you want to start with this article. https://dna-explained.com/2012/10/04/working-with-mitochondrial-dna-results/

      Lastly, if Family Tree DNAs goal was only to take your money, they would be telling you just how positively wonderful this test is, not tempering their answers with caution. You may not like Rebekah’s answers, but in the years I’ve been dealing with Rebekah, I have never found her to be inaccurate or untruthful. In fact, she bends over backwards not to write anything misleading. So if you’re finding her answers lackluster, that’s because they weren’t written by a marketing person:) They are written by a technical person who uses and knows the products and their limitations.

      • Thank you Roberta. As I am a direct report to the FTDNA marketing head, I thought I had better clarify. Family Tree DNA as a business sells products to help with personal ancestry and genealogy. We have different types of tests, because there are different genetic types and different genealogical problems. We try to be upfront and honest about the pros and cons of each test type. That is because we would rather not sell you a test than sell you the wrong test.

        I personally think that every person should document the genetics of their direct maternal line as part of the reasonably exhaustive search on that line. A reasonably exhaustive search is part of the genealogical proof standard. However, I do understand that price is an issue.


        Regards,
        Rebekah Canada – Consultant
        Senior Technical Writer & Copy Editor
        Web Presence & Customer Engagement
        Family Tree DNA

      • Some were released yesterday, the 27th, and additional test results will be released today and everyday over the next month at which point they anticipate that their backlog will be cleared.

      • Roberta,

        FTDNA seems very noncommittal in their wording to its customers. Originally Big Y results for many were to be received on 31 Dec 2013. The it was pushed to mid Feb 2014, then to 28 Feb 2014. Now this is the notice that the majority of the Big Y customers received today from FTDNA not through an email but to there account on the FTDNA Website:

        “We expect that all samples ordered during the initial sale (last November & December) will be delivered by March 28th. We are processing samples in first come first serve order. If a sample doesn’t pass quality control, we will place it in the next set of results to be processed as long as we have enough DNA sample. If we require an additional sample, we will send a new test kit and place the new sample in the first set to be processed when it is returned.”

        The very loose wording at the shows that FTDNA is not guaranteeing delivery of order Big Y test results by 28 March 2014, the they clearly indicate “We expect…”

        To find out that the on 28 Feb 2014 that the expected date (which was changed three times to 28 Feb 2014) of 28 Feb 2014 will not be met, however it may are may not be met by 28 March 2014 (even if there are no issues above FTDNA having to process the test) is pretty horrible customer service.

    • Testing decisions have to be highly personalized. In my case, I’ve done Y-DNA67 testing and I think I can clearly see some potential value in upgrading to Y-DNA111. However, despite the splashy graphics and its awe-inspiring name, I’m struggling to understand what Big Y offers in proportion to its cost. Time will no doubt tell, but I have to wonder what the early adopters are expecting.

      It’s important to set realistic expectations. I, too, have struggled to squeeze value out of my mitochondrial testing. Fortunately, I wasn’t caught entirely by surprise because FTDNA’s fine print clearly states that it takes about 22 generations to get to a 95% confidence interval with your full sequence mitochondrial matches. Unfortunately, I only noticed that little factoid after I had already ordered the test and was waiting for my results. Oops.

      Of course, there’s an element of uncertainty built into genetic genealogy. There’s no way to know what you’re going to get out of it until you try it. But with the more expensive tests, the uncertainty seems to outweigh the potential, in my opinion.

      I suspect that for many of us, the value of 7 family finder tests might outweigh the value of one Big Y by an order of magnitude, at least.

      Caveat emptor!

  4. This BIG Y is very exciting! I think for Finns this might be really interesting as we’re so many who have taken tests and we are working together as a big and active community. Special thanks for Rebekah and Roberta for keeping us informed, in their own always reliable and trustworthy ways. P.S. mtDNA is my special love in genetic genealogy, challenging and rewarding.

  5. We in the Franklin project are on pins and needles waiting for Friday’s big release of the BIG Y results!!! We are hoping to pinpoint where in England our Franklins came from!! WOOHOO!!
    As for mtDNA and Rebekah Canada, I have to add Rebekah has been nothing but helpful, answered every question I ever asked or forwarded it or me, to someone who could address it. I’m VERY glad she is now at FTDNA in an official capacity as she has been even more help recently!! 🙂 I find most people don’t understand how to use the mtDNA results and, like Roberta said, due to their being more difficult to trace, it is imperative that one understand that questions they hope to answer by mtDNA testing and to that end I suggest either Megan Smolenyak’s book, Trace Your Roots With DNA and/or Emily Auliciano’s recent book, Genetic Genealogy: The Basics and Beyond. Both will help with understanding tests available and their uses and Emily’s, being the more recently published also has information for current use of results in your genealogy research.

  6. I have received my Big Y Results and am very glad I signed up for the test. Prior to taking the Big Y, I knew that I was L1065. Results have immediately taken me 4 SNPs downstream of L1065. On top of this I have the Big Y has me positive with a high confidence for an additional 82 Novel (variant) SNPs. Once these novel/variant SNPs are compared with the results of others (which may take some time) much will be learned about my paternal linage.

    Although the Big Y had a rocky start this time around (remained of Big Y test results are scheduled to be completed prior to 28 March 2014) I am extremely satisfied with the product that FTDNA has created.

    Once all the novel/variant SNPs are sorted out, I believe that the Big Y will be the most beneficial genetic genealogy test on the market. From my personal experience with both my currently known results and the expected follow-on information that is expected, I highly recommend this product to anyone interested in their paternal ancestry. Well worth the investment.

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