Jasmine’s Journey of Discovery

I am Jasmine’s daughter, well, I guess that would be granddaughter with many greats preceding – but she is my ancient clan mother, nonetheless.DSC_0027

Looking back now over the past 12 or 13 years since I had my mitochondrial DNA first tested and discovered I was a member of haplogroup J, I’ve realized what a journey of discovery I’ve been on.  Literally.  I was immediately interested in the ancestral journey of J, Jasmine, my ancestor, and as the tests became more refined, I learned more about Jasmine through her subgroups.

I’m now classified as J1c2f which is 4 subgroups downstream of haplogroup J, the original Jasmine, each one more refined and more geographically specific that the previous haplogroup.  Looking at the maps for J, J1, J1c, J1c2 and J1c2f side by side shows the migration path of my ancestor rather clearly.

We know that haplogroup J was born in the Middle East some 30,000-50,000 years ago.  Many subclades of J were also born there, but eventually, some began the slow migration to Europe.  They probably had no destination in mind at that time, but were simply searching for something – fresh water, unsettled land, better hunting…something.   My ancestor was among one of those groups, that long ago day.  I can’t help but wonder what she saw, or thought, or if she even realized she was embarking on any kind of a journey.  Did she have an inkling or was she simply moving next door?

Hap j map

Above, the haplogroup J map from the haplogroup J project at Family Tree DNA.

hap j1c map

The subgroup J1c map is shown above.  You can see it is somewhat smaller and the geography is not quite as widely dispersed.

my matches J1c2f

The haplogroup J project doesn’t group in more refined haplogroup subgroups than J1c, but on the map above you can see the most distant ancestor locations of my full sequence matches, all haplogroup J1c2f.  I’m surprised as how widely spread the ancestors of these participants are, given that by the time you’re 4 or 5 haplogroup generations downstream of a founding mother, J in this case, you’re often looking at distinctive regional clusters.  I find the marker in the Caucasus, north of Turkey, quite interesting.

There are only a limited number of ways to get to Europe if you are coming from the Middle East: over the Caucasus through Russia, the sea route via the Mediterranean or the combined land and sea route, through Turkey, crossing between Europe and Asia at present day Istanbul, or old Constantinople, shown on the map below.

istanbul map

Learning about my haplogroup pushed the genealogical clock back further than I had ever imagined possible – from about 200 years to tens of thousands.  That information fueled within me a vagabond I didn’t know existed, and at a depth I never imagined.

So, a few years later, I went on the “Journey of Jasmine,” at least part of it.  I retraced some of her footsteps and cruised the Mediterranean coastline where many haplogroup J descendants are found today.  I journaled about Jasmine daily and titled the trip, “The Journey of Jasmine.”  I spent a day in Istanbul, Turkey and another day in the majestic ruins of Ephesus near the coast, shown below, and I knew that either my direct descendant or her relatives had stood where I stood, thousands of years ago.


When I crossed the Bosphorus River, or rather, sailed up and down the Bosphorus, which forms the border within the city of Istanbul between Europe and Asia, I knew that my ancestor, if she traveled from the Middle East to Europe using that route, had indeed crossed at or near that point.  Constantinople is a very old trade route, established where it was because of its location.  It moved me deeply to know I was likely standing in her footsteps, some thousands of years later.

Of course, it would have looked very different then.  I imagined it without contemporary buildings.

istanbul europe and asia

Above, both the European and Asian sides of Istanbul, with Asia across the River.  Below, the top photograph shows the European side of the bridge that connects the two halves of the city, and the lower photo shows the Asian side.

istanbul europe

istanbul asia

I have not been to Jasmine’s birthplace, the Middle East, but I’d surely love to visit, nor have I been to where my oldest ancestor whose name I know, Elizabetha Mehlheimer, was found in Goppmannsbuhl, Bayern, Germany around 1800, but I’m working on that too.

I have walked in the footsteps of other ancestors that I’ve found through DNA testing and I’m planning two trips within the next two years to do just that again.

This fall I will be visiting the location in Lancashire, England, discovered through a DNA match, where my Speake family originated, and as a bonus, down the road another 25 miles, where my Bowling line, who married into the Speak line, originated as well.  I’ll be sharing that with you as I connect with the past.

I’m also visiting Kent where my Estes line originated, also proven through DNA testing, and then next year, visiting the Frisian roots of my Estes line that was only discovered through DNA testing.

Of course, if I’m visiting Frisian roots, I’ll also be visiting my Dutch roots as well, another powerful connection through DNA, assisted dramatically by a wonderful Dutch genealogist.

I’m Not the Only One

Recently, I saw a couple of other people comment about how their genetic discoveries have inspired them to connect with their distant, or maybe not so distant, past.

One person posted this video of the Tuvan throat singers who have genetic connections to Native American people.


Someone else who tested Native and never knew about that history before is attending a Homecoming Powwow this weekend.  Someone else attended an African Festival in Boston this week.

Another client who also tested Native visited Lake Baikal, the “home” of the Native people in Asia and sent me a photo of him standing on the shores of Lake Baikal to use in his DNA Report.  Below, Shaman Rock in Lake Baikal.

lake baikal

Someone else mentioned that they are attending a Hungarian heritage festival near where they live after discovering their Hungarian heritage.


Opportunities to connect with our ancestors and their culture, our heritage, are all around us.

What About You?

So, I’d like to know – how have your DNA results inspired you?  Have they changed or influenced the journey of your life?  What kind of experiences have you had that you would never have had without DNA testing?  DNA has influenced my life dramatically and provided me with amazing opportunities and adventures – like the Lost Colony archaeology digs, for example.

As my good friend, Anne Poole, who I met through DNA testing, co-founder of the Lost Colony Research Group, pictured at left beside me below, reminds me every time we are on a hot, sweaty, poison ivy and tick-infested archaeology dig together, “it’s all about the journey.”  Indeed it is.  Tell me about yours.

anne and me on dig

83 thoughts on “Jasmine’s Journey of Discovery

  1. Just thinking yesterday about planning a trip to Kent, England to see where my Estes lived! I don’t know if I will ever make it there, so it will be nice to hear about your journey, Roberta. My paternal grandmother was Martha Ann Estes.

  2. I am an adoptee born with a visual impairment. DNA Genealogy is having a tremendous impact in my life. In 13 years I went from following intuition and becoming blind to proving my Jewish and Ethiopian ancestry. In 2000 my life drastically changed. Spiritual transitions along with a physical journey ensued. This journey has lead me to Israel where I now make my home. My first test was mtdna in 2004. In 2006 I broke seal of adoption and was reunited with my two siblings. 2008 I moved to Israel. In 2011 the inherited eye diseased progressed. I decided to take the Family Tree DNA Family Finder test in hopes of answering questions about this eye disease and from whom I inherited from. As my sight became worse I became a part of a large group of people suffering from the same disease here in Israel. Amazingly my test results returned with 25% European and 74% African. I didn’t expect this amount of European ancestry and surely didn’t expect to see Russia as the Country of my Ancestry. Ireland, Belarous , Hungary, England which fits some patterns of journeys of German Jews. The African results surprised me with mostly Nigeria Yoruba people. Dr McDonald’s Analysis put my European and African results into perspective. I saw finally documented Ethiopian and German ancestry before my eyes! Even the .5% Native American ancestry my family talks about. I haven’t connected with any cousins here in Israel yet but look forward to meeting more cousins and hearing family stories I’ve missed.


    Diane Devorah Mixon FTDNA #25348

    • Diane, may I ask if your hereditary eye disease is Leber’s hereditary optical neuropathy? (I think I’ve got that name right). This is a disease that apparently mtDNA J people are more prone to than people in other mtDNA haplogroups. You don’t say what your mtDNA haplogroup is.
      My own haplogroup is J1c2, which is quite common in the mtDNA J family. I have been intrigued to find that my closest matches on my FTDNA personal page tend to have an earliest known female direct-line ancestor who was either an Ulster Presbyterian (in Co. Down or Co. Antrim) or Norwegian. A possible explanation for this can be found in a map in Oxford University geneticist Stephen Oppenheimer’s book “The Blood of the Isles” (if I remember rightly) where he shows mtDNA J people moving from Norway across to Scotland during the Neolithic or New Stone Age. In fairly recent times (17th c. +) many Scots moved across the Irish Sea to Ulster and they were the ancestors of the modern Ulster Presbyterians. Many must have had ancestral links to those Neolithic migrants from what we now call Norway. And of course Norse women may have accompanied their menfolk to Britain during the Viking Age.


      • Harry, that is very interesting.To give a slightly different slant to your story, I am also of the JGroup, from N.Ireland. But of Catholic, not Presbyterian stock, ie not coming from the Ulster Scots arrivals c1600 which you mention.
        I have well documented maternal genealogy going back to c1700 and my gt gt ….grandmother in question was from an old Irish name from the Glens of Antrim which was isolated from the arrival and settlement of the Scots. Of course there was plenty of traffic across the sea there, backwards and forwards, 12 miles to Scotland, pre the plantation days of c1600, for hundreds of years or more..fascinating isn’t it?☺

      • Can I ask what the old Irish surname in question was? The Glens name McQuillan is thought by some to be the origin of the Scottish Borders surname Whillans.


  3. What a great story! I hadn’t realized that the letters stood for names…or did you just assign Jasmine for the J? I’m H7. (Or I think I am. I haven’t looked at the report in awhile.) I’ve often thought I’d like to journey back in time via the migratory path of my known ancestors. I hadn’t thought to take a trip based on my mtDNA and my brother’s yDNA. Love that idea. That would be a pretty big reunion if we all took that trip and met in mitachondrial Eve’s homeland. Ha! 🙂

    • Most of the main mitochondrial haplogroups were assigned names back when Brian Sykes wrote his book, “Seven Daughters of Eve.” Those that weren’t were assigned names a little later in various ways. The male haplogroups don’t have names. If you bought the Personal DNA Report, it includes the info about your haplogroup name. I personally think it makes them more personal than just the letter.

      • I’ll go through my ‘papers’ again and see what I’ve overlooked or forgotten. I’m going to have to get that book, “Seven Daughters of Eve”. Sounds very interesting. (or is it horribly outdated as DNA info grows exponentially?)

  4. Roberta this is such a unique way to look at the Female haplogroup. According to 23andMe I am J2a1a, but just cannot seem to understand who this original ancestor was. I understand this result is from my Mother’s Mother’s Mother, ect. but how far back does this go? As with ydna the haplotype goes back to the first “Moore” who took this surname. How far back does the female ancestor go back?

    • Haplogroups, both male and female, track backwards to mitochondrial Eve and Y-line Adam – the first males and female to live and have descendants today. Maybe I’ll do another blog on that.

  5. A great post. Until a few years ago I had a comforting world view passed on to me by my family. Events lead me to discover I was not whom I thought I was. That lead to a long period of internal reconciliation and a peak behind the door of genetics. So now I am J1 on my paternal side. I too wonder how they got to my recent origins. Another gift of the Roman empire ?

  6. I’m a J1c3c- not a lot of those testing. National Geographic Genome 2 says more research is needed on J1c3. My earliest female ancestor that I have confidence in is Rebecca Stewart born 1725 in Charles County Md. Her mother may have been Mary Robey. I find it fascinating that J originated in the Middle East some 30,000-50,000 years ago.

    • I am a J1c3c, too! There doesn’t seem to be any of us. I did the Geno 2.0 and they don’t have a heat map for me, so it’s frustrating to find out where my mother’s ancestry comes from exactly. We have a Welsh last name, Williams, but we are from England originally (which used to be full of Welsh people until the Anglo-Saxons came). Anyway, just though you should know there are other J1c3c’s out here! We are in Arizona now.

    • I’m late to the conversation but I’m also J1c3 according to the genographic project. The furthest I can trace my maternal line genealogically to to a Mary, possible last name of Looper, from Pennsylvania.

      • I am J1c3.. I am new to this and would love to have more information. My maternal line comes directly from Cornwall, England. Her father was a Long and her mother was a Cooper. Her parents were first cousins. I don’t know where to go from here.

      • You can contact your full sequence matches, you can test your autosomal DNA (Family Finder) or you can order a Personalized DNA Report about your mtDNA line. All good options.

  7. I like this Roberta, and how do I sp much wish that they had more research information on my branch. I am H10e2 the granddaughter and many great grandaughters of Haplogroup H (Helena).

  8. It’s so much fun, isn’t it? I thought I was 100% Ashkenazi Jewish but my mtDNA came back Sephardic (U6a7a1b); my oldest maternal ancestor is from Slovakia.

  9. I am not who I thought I was before I started the journey. I grew up thinking I was “English” but now know that both my direct maternal and direct paternal lines (and over half my ancestors) were German. I am Velda’s daughter.

  10. If World History in my Sr. Year of HS had been this interesting, I believe I would have really had better than a darn B-…… Thanks for the story, it’s really amazing….

  11. My family just spent several days in Scotland seeing ancestral stomping grounds (and some cousins!), but that was researched the old-fashioned way. We haven’t gone far enough working with the DNA to figure out anything new and startling, although matches from Finland and Russia are rather intriguing, and those from the American South are puzzling.

  12. This post really brings it all together: science, culture, archaeology, and a profound personal respect for human history. The dig picture at the end really brought it home for me, because the main thing that inspired me to do DNA testing was my interest in archaeology. Even if the connections between our genes and specific prehistorical cultures are tenuous, having some kind of personal connection to something you’re interested in — even if there’s always going to be an element of mystery to it — is a unique experience (I just tested as j1c1b2).

  13. Great blog post. It’s so fascinating to see where everyone is from I thoroughly enjoyed reading this. I’m from group J, as well. J1c3c, to be exact. I’d like to do the same type of journey but there isn’t much known about J1c3c.

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  16. Awesome story Roberta. I am a J1C2. What is the 2? I am new at this and trying to learn too fast I guess. 🙂 When I saw that I was 95% Western European/Orcadia, and 5% Middle Eastern, I read everything I could about the Orkney Islands. I don’t understand most of it yet, but I am loving the research!

    • The designation J1c2 is like reading down a tree. J is the main haplogroup, or the trunk, 1 means you are on the first main branch, c means you are on the third twig on branch 1 and 2 means the second leaf on the third twig of branch one on tree J.

      • To determine the difference between any 2 subgroups, like J2c2 and J1c, you would look a the map for that subgroup, J1c, and the next one down the tree, J1c2 and look at where they both occurred. J1c2 is likely to occur in a subset of the J1c terrain. Not always, but generally.

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  19. Neat, I just found your note when I looked up what J1c meant.
    I am commenting, because in 2011 I went to Istanbul, and was where you were. My daughter was in the Peace Corps in Ukraine so we took a trip to Istanbul, and went on a tour boat and then a bus ride around that bridge.
    Then after my daughter finished the Peace Corps, she took a trip on the siberian railway and stayed a few days at lake Baikal.
    I got my 88 year old mom to recently give me a sample of saliva to test her DNA on ancestry.com. I am excited to see what shows up when it is done. Her parents were Croatian. I am half from English decent too, on my Dad’s side.

  20. I’m also a daughter of Jasime — J on both sides — J1b1a maternally, and J2b2 paternally (my brother was tested to get the Y Chromosome information. What’s funny is that my Dad was 100% Italian aside from a drop of Ashkenazi, and my Mom’s people were from Ireland, though they were likely English). Anyway, thought you might want to know that there are a few famous J’s, including (possibly) St. John the Baptist and King Richard III of the House of York.

    St. John the Baptist (ignore the Christ-bashing stuff): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QjoorU03g

    King Richard III: http://cruwys.blogspot.com/2013/02/richard-iii-king-is-found.html

    Fascinating, isn’t it? Finding out about my haplogroups has been an interesting adventure!

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  22. Hey, Cousins!

    I’m a J1c3b1a. My maternal line traces back to Rachel Ervins, who lived in Virginia. She was born in 1720. Her parents were probably Quakers who moved down from Pennsylvania, but that hasn’t been confirmed. She was of English ancestry, probably.

    I have yet to find a decent migration map, but I gather that J1c3, at least, seems to be Irish? Is there a site I can follow that will update the refinements of haplogroup locations as they occur?


    Sheryl LeSage

    • Your best bet is to be sure to join the applicable haplogroup project or projects. The migration map will be personal and you can utilize the matches map to see that, plus the subclade map in the haplogroup projects.

  23. I loved just happening onto your blog when I was looking for Haplogroup maps! First, let me say we are definitely cousins(aside from J1C2) as I “belong” to your T-shirt group of “Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History.” Next let me say that your description of finding that one belongs to a Mother-Clan, and which one, was similar to my own thoughts and feelings upon reading Seven Daughters of Eve, and going to Oxford Ancestors. This totally unexpected knowledge set me on fire with imagination and “belonging”. At that time
    I learned this from Seven Daughters of Eve, and I made T-shirts with ancient images from the Anatolian Plateau. Knowing that migrations of the J clan from what is now Iraq, went up thru Anatolia and then various routes from there. For the T shirts I chose a sheaf of wheat as a Family Crest and underneath I had lettering that said Jasmine’s Clan, 8,000 B.C. I gave the T shirts to my family for Xmas about 8 years ago. I know that much has been learned and discerned since that book and I have delved in somewhat but have a long way to go.
    I know my matrilineal line, by surnames, back to a Susan Dickenson in VA about 1750.
    The paternal surnames in between are: McMullen, Madison, Arbuckle, Craig, Allen, Armstrong,
    Thompson, Johnson. This matrilineal line is in VA several generations, then West VA,
    then MO, then TX. Many other connections are all thru the South. I would love to trace my J1c2 line back to England or Scotland. (Most likely).
    Oh, yes, and I would like to say that my sister is an archaeologist also!

    • Hallo ! Interesting – I am J1c2b and I saw your name on my FTDNA match list distance 3. I live in Sweden but I know that my ancestors on my mothers line came to Sweden from Germany, England (Scotland, Ireland) in the 1700-1800th century.

  24. Hello i’m unsure what is the origin of j1c2? what is j1c2 for ancient people like romans,celts or greeks for exemple. what is j1c2 coming from?

    • Ancient Europe. We don’t know a lot more than that. You would have to look at your own matches map to see where your matches ancestors came from and where yours came from to deduce more, if possible.

      • Thank you for the answer! the matches have highest count on the region of Ireland and britain, while i’m from scandinavia

  25. I’m a mitochondrial J1C3B1a apparently. and I’m adopted and have no relatives to link to the Y line in my paternal background. My mother was born in Peebleshire Scotland, (surname – Cameron), her mum was apparently Irish with surname Doherty,,,,,,,and then there was Jasmine. It’s all a bit too new for me to learn about and follow – I keep getting the messages by email that a new relative has been found…..but none that I can tell currently living in New Zealand – haha I see NZ only peeps in at the edge of the world map. I know I am here due to the migration from the UK to NZ after the WWII, when young women were recruited to come to NZ and help populated it. After 5 years in NZ Mother left me here and went back on the next ship, to England. Seems I’m Irish, Scots and English in the recent few centuries – on both bloodline sides of the family.

    • Hi, I’m mitochondrial J1C, my surname is Cameron. My best friends maiden name is Cameron, and her married name is Doherty. I recently did 23 and me.
      I hope my brother will do the test to find out the paternal haplogroup. My Dads ancestry was Northern Europe Scotland, Mom was Sicilian, Southern Europe. This is so interesting! I had to reply to you, because the similar name. On 23 and me, close genetic relatives, none had similar names. 6 degrees of separation!

  26. I am a J1c3b1, just got my results. Still trying to figure out all this technical data. My maternal line was Quaker, going back to England in the 1600s. I have not yet imported my GEDCOM info but will possibly do that this weekend.

  27. I clicked on the My Origins link on “my FTDNA” and the results were interesting. My DNA is 100% European – odd, since “Jasmine” was born in the Middle East and mtDNA J is still strong there – but only 63% of my DNA is native to the British Isles. 32% is Western and Central Europe (the Celts??), and – the big surprise – 5% is Finland and Northern Siberia. I should say that I’m J1c2, Scottish on nearly every branch of my family-tree, one line from the far north of England and one line Ulster Presbyterian, but they were just transplanted Scots.
    I wonder if the Finland and Northern Siberia 5% has to do with my J ancestry? I’ve read how the descendants of “Jasmine” made their way to northern Europe before heading further west. Stephen Oppenheimer has a map in his book “The Origins of the British” showing a migration of mtDNA J people from Norway to Scotland in the Neolithic. I have matches with people of Norwegian and Norwegian-American origin, and I know that mtDNA J is also found in Finland and Sweden.


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  31. Hello,
    Great post.

    I just recently tested at 23andme and came back J1c3. It’s Great to bump in to a distant relative.

    My mom is from Cuba, but I’m guessing the lineage was brought from Spain.
    It’s a dream of mine to retrace my ancestors steps; its really great to see someone living that dream.

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  33. That’s interesting and gets my curiosity to see other people sharing me the same results , I’m a native grandson of Jasmine and my grandmothers never left the Middle East since Jasmine’s born around 45000 years ago 😊

    I did the test at FTDNA and I found that I’m a J haplogroup member on my both sides :
    my Y-DNA : J1c3d that’s mean I’m Arab
    my MtDNA : J2a2a

    I’m from Saudi Arabia which it has the highest frequency of J mtdna Haplogroup ( 25% ) in whole the planet , so that is a big hello for you all cousins

    • Hello to my Arab Jasmine Cousin from Oregon in the USA, I have male cousins that are direct descent from my male Irish ancestor (James Jordan) from County Down that came to the Virginia Colony around 1770. They are matching up with the Graham and Armstrong border clans of J1-M267 that are related to those in the J1c3d subclade, which I am learning is a very rare DNA marker for the traditional Irish-Scottish clans. A big mystery, with some researcher thinking they may descend from the Syrian archers that came with the Romans, several centuries before William the Conqueror? Hoping to get my MtDNA done too, as the Jordan line comes from my Father’s Scots-Irish heritage, but there is a similar path on my maternal side (lots of Irish ancestors-about 50% of my overall DNA) for the oldest DNA markers that includes Northern Africa, France and then Ireland (could be the Moors too, if they kept moving north from Spain?). I hope this project keeps growing, so we can learn more about our ancient Arab ancestry, and figure out how and when they got to Ireland? I started digging deeper into my Scots-Irish ancestry, since I am planning a trip to Ireland and Scotland next year, but now it is going to be so much more interesting, especially since this J1 cluster is concentrated within specific geographical areas.

  34. It’s good to get a post from a “Jasmine” who isn’t American or European. As a (formerly) red-haired east-coast Scot, I was fascinated to learn that my mitochondrial ancestor came from what’s now the Middle East, and that my haplogroup is very common among the Bedouin. Later, when my wife and I had a holiday in Jordan and we saw Bedouin encampments with their black tents, I felt a sort of kinship to them, I must admit.


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  36. I am a J1b1a on my mothers side. My ancestors come from the South Uist in the Hebrides.
    Found this out recently and now have the bug to find out more. As a teacher, and pastor, with a love of history share your love of the journey. Rev. Peter Unger

  37. I’ve enjoyed reading this blog. My mitochondrial test through FTDNA is J2a1a1. My earliest known female ancestor was born in early 1800s and her family name was Wynne. Both sides of my mother’s family came to NZ from Ireland in 1860s and 1870s. My father was a mixture of Cornish, Scottish and Scots-Irish as far as I know (have asked my brother will take a Y test for me). My autosomal test tells me I’m 2% Eastern Middle Eastern and 98% European (94% British Isles and 2% Scandanavian and 2% Finland and Northern Siberia). Fascinating stuff..

      • Yes, good idea Sally. Very few from British Isles on the J2a1a1 map. What locations do you have in common with mine?

  38. Hi your question is has our DNA ancestry taken us on searches far and wide. Well absolutely, not as far as you have but I so admire your sense of adventure. My maternal grandmother was a J1C3. I have to say you look just like my mom and her sisters and my cousins. I have been all over the USA, including to the Library of Congress to get a book an ancestor had published on my Paternal side. I am using DNA to find the Maternal side, the story goes that my great grandmother who shows up in San Francisco CA came around 1880 or thereabout she had my grandmother in SF in 1895 and my family is still all over the SF bay area. But Mary Ellen Murphy said she came to SF from Ireland. Never going to find her there is a ton of Mary Ellen Murphy’s in SF during that time period. But I was told she was related to a Scanlan and he was part of the Catholics of the SF churches, so maybe the DNA will find a link to Ireland maybe not. Happy hunting for ancestors.

  39. hi roberta. great article. and inspiring!
    my mtdna is J1c3e2. my great great grandmother margaret defilippi (married name narretto) was born in northern italy and immigrated to america in 1859 when she was under 10 years of age. am not positive but believe were from piedmont (turin) italy. her parents departed from liguria (genoa) and arrived in new orleans after departing havana cuba. the passenger list recorded sardinian in the column next to her father antonio defilippi family names though so i am not sure exactly were they had lived seeing that. her mother was named antonia (called tonia and died in tangipahoa parish la in 1900) and that is all i have about her thus far. my great grandmother (margaret’s daughter) susannah (and my first name 🙂 ) was very blue eyed and had light reddish blonde hair. i have seen J1c3e2 in sweden and have read of some J1c3e2’s from lithuania and poland so it makes me wonder where she could have come from, but have no matches in my group so who knows how they got to northern italy by then but it’s got to be quite the journey also! not one has shown up to date and i was tested over 2 years ago ….. maybe someday 😉
    here is my margaret’s page on my tree:


    thanks for taking time to read a bit about my jasmine line.
    keep writing 🙂 it helps spur the rest of us on!

  40. I love this article! What a great trip idea! Yes, I have done much research into my haplogroup and have found some excellent resources in books and the Internet. Seems my ancient Grandmothers lived in the Pontic Caspian Steppes in the Yamnaya, Catacomb & Srubnaya Cultures. Her line came into Central & Northern Europe with the Corded Ware Culture(75% descended from Yamnaya folks) Would love to go to Southern Russia & Ukraine to see artifacts from those Cultures. And sit on the riverbanks of the Samara & Kutuluk Rivers in Russia. The Yamnaya had seasonal camps in those areas. Jennifer

  41. My name is Diana Cooke. My halpogroup is J1C2. I’d love to learn more about where I come from and who I’m descendant from. Can you offer any guidance?

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